Hall Model 1843 Carbine

[JOHN42768]

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Original .52 caliber dated 1848

 

[johan_steele]

Again, very nice!

 

[JOHN42768]

This missed the Fremont Affair and still remains .52 smoothbore

 

[UCVRelics]

Congrats on a VERY Nice addition.

 

[originalrebelyell]

Very nice.

 

[Cpl. Smith]

very nice!

 

[Geoff Tobin]

Nice looking carbine. I am looking for information on the ramrod. I have an 1849 production unit that is missing its ramrod. I ordered one from the rifle shoppe. I received it a few days ago. The shaft diameter appears to be wrong and the slot used to store the ramrod appears not to drilled deep enough to properly store the ramrod. I am curious about what other carbines states are.

I have had this carbine for decades but only took an interest in it after InRange started a series on Civil War Carbines earlier this year. It cleaned up fairly well give I doubt it had been cleaned in over eighty years.

 

[JOHN42768]

Nice looking carbine. I am looking for information on the ramrod. I have an 1849 production unit that is missing its ramrod. I ordered one from the rifle shoppe. I received it a few days ago. The shaft diameter appears to be wrong and the slot used to store the ramrod appears not to drilled deep enough to properly store the ramrod. I am curious about what other carbines states are.

I have had this carbine for decades but only took an interest in it after InRange started a series on Civil War Carbines earlier this year. It cleaned up fairly well give I doubt it had been cleaned in over eighty years.

Welcome, enjoy. I will have to dig it out and get measurements for you

 

[plymouthairrifle]

My Hall carbine is 1851 dated. The rod is tapered .215 dia.to .275 dia. and the mushroom head is .465 dia. Overall length is 19 1/2" bottom of the rod is threaded 5/16" I can post any photos if you need.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy. I will have to dig it out and get measurements for you

From my 1848 dated. OAL of rod 19 9/16" of which 9/32" are the threads and 1/4" tulip bulb . Body Dia. .225" head dia. .489"

 

[Geoff Tobin]

The ramrod I received from The Riffle Shoppe has an overall length of 20.89, Thread OD Ø.995 Length of thread Ø.23, OD at base of threads Ø.20, dia at Transition to Mushroom head Ø.281, Mushroom Head Ø.44. The taper appears to be uniform.

19.5 is the length I measure from the dimple in the ramrod latch to the end of the ramrod channel under the barrel.

The image with the ramrod installed is as far at it will install.

I am still working on getting the nipple out. Kroil and heat have so far been unsuccessful.

 

[Geoff Tobin]

From my 1848 dated. OAL of rod 19 9/16" of which 9/32" are the threads and 1/4" tulip bulb . Body Dia. .225" head dia. .489"

Does the body diameter appear to be a uniform diameter from the threads to just under the Tulip bulb?

 

[plymouthairrifle]

Mine is tapered

 

[JOHN42768]

Does the body diameter appear to be a uniform diameter from the threads to just under the Tulip bulb?

About 2" from threaded end is .215 and about 2" from tulip bulb is .240. So yes slight taper

 

[mofederal]

I got to handle a Hall's carbine once, and it was an experience. I liked the carbine quite a bit. I was just shocked it came into a militaria shop. I like you're carbine.

 

[Seduzal]

Thanks for sharing this awesome carbine.

 

[Seduzal]

Something just cough my eye? Sorry but I don't know that must about Carbine's Just asking a question, that stamp on what is called the breech (U.S. S.NORTH. MIDL. TH. CONN. 1848). What's that mean? Made in Connecticut 1848?

 

[JOHN42768]

Something just cough my eye? Sorry but I don't know that must about Carbine's Just asking a question, that stamp on what is called the breech (U.S. S.NORTH. MIDL. TH. CONN. 1848). What's that mean? Made in Connecticut 1848?

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Simeon North factory in Middletown, Ct. from 1843 through 1852. A couple of good books on Hall's: "Hall's Military Breechloaders" by Peter A. Schmidt and "Hall's Breechloaders" by R.T. Huntington.

 

[Seduzal]

Simeon North factory in Middletown, Ct. from 1843 through 1852. A couple of good books on Hall's: "Hall's Military Breechloaders" by Peter A. Schmidt and "Hall's Breechloaders" by R.T. Huntington.

Thank you for your reply. Stanley