General William " Grumble " Jones.

[Rebelsoul]

Looking for the best book about "Grumble Jones" any suggestions ?

 

[General Casey]

I don't know if there is a biography of Jones. I know there is one on his brigade.

 

[nc native]

I did find one biography - William Edmundson "Grumble" Jones - The Life of a Cantankerous Confederate by James Buchanan Ballard
written in 2017. It is available for sale on Amazon. If the title is any indication it might be a very interesting and entertaining book.

 

[Stone in the wall]

I'm surprised there is not more on Jones. If one was going to write a book, it would be hard to find a more interesting subject.

 

[limestone1863]

I did find one biography - William Edmundson "Grumble" Jones - The Life of a Cantankerous Confederate by James Buchanan Ballard
written in 2017. It is available for sale on Amazon. If the title is any indication it might be a very interesting and entertaining book.

Thanks for info on book about "Grumble" Jones.

 

[Pollaco]

It's not about him but yet kind of is. "A History of the Laurel Brigade" by William N. McDonald.

 

[RedRover]

It's not about him but yet kind of is. "A History of the Laurel Brigade" by William N. McDonald.

You can read that online.

Google Books: Laurel Brigade

The men called him "Bill." He did not wear a uniform. On one occasion, I recall a story that he saw some federal cavalry getting the upper hand on one of his men, so pitched in himself to save him. For such he was much respected by that brigade, but they still called themselves "Ashby's cavalry."

In his memoir, John S. Mosby speaks of him, and the intense personal and professional dislike between him and Jeb Stuart.

 

[rpkennedy]

You can read that online.

Google Books: Laurel Brigade

The men called him "Bill." He did not wear a uniform. On one occasion, I recall a story that he saw some federal cavalry getting the upper hand on one of his men, so pitched in himself to save him. For such he was much respected by that brigade, but they still called themselves "Ashby's cavalry."

In his memoir, John S. Mosby speaks of him, and the intense personal and professional dislike between him and Jeb Stuart.

Stuart once called Jones the best outpost officer in the army. That said, they hated one another personally.

Ryan

 

[RedRover]

Stuart once called Jones the best outpost officer in the army. That said, they hated one another personally.

Ryan

As long as he was on outposts.... I seem to recall when commanding one of his brigades Stuart had him on court martial charges until he was dispatched to SW Virginia...

During the grand review of the Cavalry Corps at Brandy Station, Jones considered the whole thing a gigantic humbug to wear out the horses and men to no practical purpose... and annoyed Stuart by resting his men while other commands were drilling and preparing for it...

 

[Rebforever]

Lost his wife at sea on way to California before the war. Turned nasty after that.

 

[rpkennedy]

As long as he was on outposts.... I seem to recall when commanding one of his brigades Stuart had him on court martial charges until he was dispatched to SW Virginia...

During the grand review of the Cavalry Corps at Brandy Station, Jones considered the whole thing a gigantic humbug to wear out the horses and men to no practical purpose... and annoyed Stuart by resting his men while other commands were drilling and preparing for it...

Other than Wade Hampton, William Jones was arguably Stuart's most talented brigade commander. It's a shame that they didn't get along with one another.

Ryan

 

[Rebelsoul]

Lost his wife at sea on way to California before the war. Turned nasty after that.

I can understand that, I lost my wife back in 1989 at the age of 29 from an asthma attack. Made me very bitter for awhile until I straightened out .

 

[Rebforever]

I can understand that, I lost my wife back in 1989 at the age of 29 from an asthma attack. Made me very bitter for awhile until I straightened out .

Sorry for your misery over the death of someone so close. Glad you have returned.

 

[RedRover]

John N. Opie, in his memoir, has several anecdotes about General Jones, and describes his death in 1864...

Google Books: Opie; Rebel Cavalryman...

 

[Rebforever]

General Vaughn had Seniority over Imboden, was waiting on the order from Jones which never came even though they saw what was happening.
They did fight rear guard for the retreat.

 

[Pollaco]

I think there was a book by Dobbie Edward Lambert. "Grumple: The Jones Brigade of 1863-64."

 

[Stone in the wall]

Stuart once called Jones the best outpost officer in the army. That said, they hated one another personally.

Ryan

Instead of hate Stuart should have realized how lucky he was to have Jones. Jones tried to tell Stuart what was happening at Brandy Station. Stuart blew him off. As Stuart rode off Jones said something like: Well, he'll can find out for himself then.

 

[Josh The Lighthouse Guy]

Instead of hate Stuart should have realized how lucky he was to have Jones.

What was the reason for their unfriendly relationship?

I assume part of it was a personality clash.

 

[Eric Wittenberg]

I'm surprised there is not more on Jones. If one was going to write a book, it would be hard to find a more interesting subject.

I thought about it myself, but there are no surviving personal papers, and it would be a real challenge to piece together a biography.

 

[Eric Wittenberg]

What was the reason for their unfriendly relationship?

I assume part of it was a personality clash.

MAJOR personality clash, Josh. Jones didn't brook fools well, and he viewed Stuart and his antics as foppery.