Rebforever
Lt. Colonel
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2012
Very well put. However, I stick with what I previously posted. That is my feelings from all the books I read.Rebforever, sir:
I have zero knowledge if you have had any military background and even so, if in a command position in combat. Yet, to have been a good First Corps commander, one does question the Commanding General. Saying that -- before the heckles are raised; the importance is in how the questioning is presented. It does little good for either General as to sound off onto another General(s). The tactics of Cavalry, to which General Lee was last in command of, verses Infantry were different. It also provides a means of learning from the "teacher" and/or the commanding general--how he sees/what he sees --how does a potential replacement for Lee to learn, if he is not to question his teacher? As teacher "Stonewall" Jackson just repeated until it was memorized. Lee was an engineer and problem solved, frequently a quick calculation. Longstreet was many things, mainly Administrative and held every venue in the "Old Army" save artillery. Longstreet's alleged disobedience to Lee's orders cannot be fully proven as total rebellon or else the many reports would have reflected such, to include (as in this again narrow vision upon Gettysburg); Longstreet's failures in Lee's report to President Davis. Lee took, like a man -- like an officer, the blame and mentioned the loss of Stuart's services had a major impact on the overall battle. Again, only after Lee's death did the fangs show towards Longstreet and using him as a scape goat. President Davis did not believe such allegations and rode with Longstreet in parades as he was so villified by "the Lost Causers." Those who pointed fingers at Longstreet for the loss at Gettysburg, I found to have done much more damage to Lee than Longstreet. Why Early left his post which he was ordered to stay and be there for Stuart to meet up with; the moving of the ammunition train by General Pendleton without informing Col. E. P. Alexander, chief of artillery in charge of the "Pickett-Pettigrew" charge and so much more, which should remain in the Battle of Gettysburg Forum. General Lee could have at any time removed Longstreet from the Number 1 position as his replacement if he was killed or died. Recall please that Lee suffered health wise so, Lee had to have been investing in General Longstreet all the wisdom and judgment possible so he could take over and not have a repeat of when Jackson died, his commanders had no mentorship or inclusion as to force Lee to split command of "Jackson's Corps."
Further, General Lee often reversed and or rescind his orders on the battlefield. The famous phrase "If practical" was permission to use a on the spot judgment. Rarely, did Lee countermand those orders and or over-rode those orders. Again--Lee was teaching--even through other's errors. One learns more from mistakes than perfection at every task. Like Pickett said "...the enemy had something to do with it."
I prefer taking General R. E. Lee's stance with Longstreet--even through the trials of "Appomattox." Longstreet wouldn't abandon Lee. Lee wouldn't abandon Longstreet. These two men trusted each other in my opinion. Longstreet to Lee was as reliable as Traveller.
Since these long lost originals have been gone to us over 100 years now, I prefer to assume from what is documented between Davis, Lee and Longstreet, as proof that had Longstreet been so awful as claimed by the various sub-level generals of the CSA, et.al., some never having served in the ANV; let alone in Longstreet's Corps--the proof Longstreet was not cashiered, suspended, arrested, censored, chastised, court-martial and or charges applied during the war; there was no substance to the claims of others that Longstreet was disobedient and or rebelled against Lee and or Davis.
Question remains -- if a General does disobey an order and saves the army from destruction and win the battle verses, a General obeys an order, the army is totally destroyed and looses the battle -- which one would have been applauded by President Davis, the citizens of the Confederacy and the soldiers to whom lived/died through that battle?
Just my thoughts and opinions.
M. E. Wolf
I disagree with your statement on the hilited lines. Did Lee know Longstreet tried through his wife and Grants wife to reach a surrender? Longstreet was consorting with the enemy!!

So, I'm sure the father/husband got intelligence of what was going on when he came home. As a kid, sitting at the table, I sure learned a lot of stuff on neighborhood kids (intelligence) by parents talking. That was taken to school and passed around as gossip (intelligence) and the flow back and forth continues to this day. 
