Didn't he do enough?

[jgoodguy]

Longstreet, James (1821–1904) - Encyclopedia Virginia

James Longstreet was a Confederate General who served as Robert E. Lee's second-in-command for most of Lee's tenure as commander of the Army of Northern Virginia during the American Civil War (1861–1865). Longstreet fought in many of the most important battles of the conflict and ended the war as a respected figure. Lee affectionately called him "my old war horse," while his soldiers nicknamed him "the old bulldog" and "the bull of the woods." In the postwar period, however, Longstreet drew criticism for his support of Republican policies during Reconstruction (1865–1877), and controversy erupted over his conduct years earlier at the Battle of Gettysburg (1863). As southerners in general and Virginians in particular enshrined Lee's memory, Longstreet became a scapegoat for Lee's failures and the central figure in the emergent Lost Cause mythology white southerners developed to explain the loss of the war.

Following the war, Longstreet lived in New Orleans, Louisiana, but he moved to Gainesville, Georgia, in 1875, remaining there until his death. During Reconstruction, he accepted political appointments from the Republican Party. Although traditionally conservative on social issues, he endorsed biracial politics as the South's future. As commander of the Louisiana state militia, Longstreet risked his life defending black civil rights against **** violence. These actions alienated Longstreet's wartime comrades-in-arms and effectively erased his reputation as a Confederate hero.

As CSA_Today noted there was some resentment of Longstreet in Louisiana, but for the life of me I do not understand why CSA_Today would want this brought to our attention. Perhaps he can enlighten us.

 

[jgoodguy]

http://www.knowla.org/entry/757/&view=image-gallery

Nice link, perhaps you would take the time and effort to point out what you are wanting me to see. Just remember grumbling does not impress the folks lurking.

 

[jgoodguy]

Do you have a source for whatever it is you are talking about?

I think it is prima facie that there was an American Civil War. Do you deny this? If you do not, there are patriots on one side spending blood and treasure to put down a rebellion.

After all the CSA called themselves rebels and had a rebel yell not a secessionist yell.

Their descendents liked that label too.

No secessionists whiskey for modern folks.

 

[Pat Young]

I think it is prima facie that there was an American Civil War. Do you deny this? If you do not, there are patriots on one side spending blood and treasure to put down a rebellion.

After all the CSA called themselves rebels and had a rebel yell not a secessionist yell.

Their descendents liked that label too.

No secessionists whiskey for modern folks.

States Rats Cola?

 

[CSA Today]

Longstreet, James (1821–1904) - Encyclopedia Virginia




As CSA_Today noted there was some resentment of Longstreet in Louisiana, but for the life of me I do not understand why CSA_Today would want this brought to our attention. Perhaps he can enlighten us.

After the turmoil surrounding the Battle of Liberty Place and you don't still don't understand? I doubt anything that I would say to you would make the slightest impression, so would I would suggest further reading to enhance your enlightenment – lots of reading.

 

[CSA Today]

I think it is prima facie that there was an American Civil War. Do you deny this? If you do not, there are patriots on one side spending blood and treasure to put down a rebellion.

After all the CSA called themselves rebels and had a rebel yell not a secessionist yell.

Their descendents liked that label too.

No secessionists whiskey for modern folks.

Posters have been banned for more "attribution" than this.

 

[diane]

What about the people of the former Confederate State of Louisiana? Does your rationale give Longstreet the right to turn his militia loose on his former comrades and, as a result, have those former comrades in arms look upon him in fond regard and not as a self-serving traitorous sleazebag?

The key word there is 'former'. Louisiana was back in the Union. Longstreet didn't turn his militia loose, he directed them and he got his butt kicked, too. His former comrades in arms were the traitorous sleazebags - they were refusing to honor the terms of their paroles and their loyalty oaths, which included following the laws of the land - like not conducting an insurgency to keep blacks from voting.

 

[nitrofd]

Nice link, perhaps you would take the time and effort to point out what you are wanting me to see. Just remember grumbling does not impress the folks lurking.

The pictures and short captions show the white shaking hands with the KKK.LONGSTREET was appointed by the Louisiana Governor to lead the troops to suppress thefight.so he is no villain just during what the legal authority of Louisiana asked him to do.so if you suggest he was a traitor then you must be one also as you do not respect the law.

 

[jgoodguy]

After the turmoil surrounding the Battle of Liberty Place and you don't still don't understand? I doubt anything that I would say to you would make the slightest impression, so would I would suggest further reading to enhance your enlightenment – lots of reading.

Let the record show that CSA_Today refuses to provide an explanation. Blames the poor innocent questioner for asking simple questions.

 

[jgoodguy]

The pictures and short captions show the white shaking hands with the KKK.LONGSTREET was appointed by the Louisiana Governor to lead the troops to suppress thefight.so he is no villain just during what the legal authority of Louisiana asked him to do.so if you suggest he was a traitor then you must be one also as you do not respect the law.

That is the danger in just posting a link without any work. Invites folks to draw their own conclusions.

 

[FarawayFriend]

Guys, I appreciate this vivid discussion in this thread I have launched. But I think it's a sorry thing to see that still, 111 years after his death, there is so much open controversy! Like @War Horse said in his first post, all Longstreet predicted and stood for came true - you are now the "United" States again, at least it looks like this from my foreign perspective.
Why not agree with Longstreet on what he wrote in "From Manassas to Appomattox":

" The strongest laws are those established by the sword. The
ideas that divided political parties before the war — upon the rights
of the States — were thoroughly discussed by our wisest statesmen,
and eventually appealed to the arbitrament of the sword. The
decision was in favor of the North, so that her construction becomes
the law, and should be so accepted."

That is what he thought and what he lived. Why do some find it so hard to accept it?

 

[CSA Today]

Let the record show that CSA_Today refuses to provide an explanation. Blames the poor innocent questioner for asking simple questions.

Since your post #43 appears to be an approved reply, let's go with this.

 

[jgoodguy]

Since your post #43 appears to be an approved reply, let's go with this.

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Just remember, I am am Southern.

 

[KansasFreestater]

It's tough for people who accept what happened and get on with their lives. Lots of people enjoy wallowing in their defeat and take it out on people who don't. I don't get why people like to wallow 150 years later, but hey, humans are humans.

Yes, 150 years is a long time. But I'm still hoping that we resilient Americans will get over our grudges faster than a lot of folks in the Old World seem to....

 

[War Horse]

With his continous lies.

Funny your signature is a picture of Robert E. Lee a man who respected and valued this liar. Longstreet's respect for Lee is unquestioned, he even named a son after him. I don't think they would have been so fond of one another if character flaws existed. Both men had impeccable integrity and it bonded them together like a skilled carpenter and his hammer.

 

[War Horse]

He brought it on himself.

Yes he did and he took it like a man. He knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. This my friend is the definition of courage.

 

[War Horse]

The key word there is 'former'. Louisiana was back in the Union. Longstreet didn't turn his militia loose, he directed them and he got his butt kicked, too. His former comrades in arms were the traitorous sleazebags - they were refusing to honor the terms of their paroles and their loyalty oaths, which included following the laws of the land - like not conducting an insurgency to keep blacks from voting.

And if I'm not mistaken Longstreet could have easily been killed at the battle of Liberty Place but his opponents could not bring themselves to kill a great man for doing his job!

 

[FarawayFriend]

Yes he did and he took it like a man. He knew exactly what he was doing and did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. This my friend is the definition of courage.

I could not agree more. Very well said!
What I think is so sad is that especially southern supporters are against him. He went to war and gave his blood for the Confederacy. He really did love the South and the Southern people and really was hurt by the fact that this love was not returned equally. It seems he still has to wait for that.

 

[War Horse]

I could not agree more. Very well said!
What I think is so sad is that especially southern supporters are against him. He went to war and gave his blood for the Confederacy. He really did love the South and the Southern people and really was hurt by the fact that this love was not returned equally. It seems he still has to wait for that.

I suspect he has earned the respect of the majority so why sweat the minority. History has a strange way of setting the record straight with enough time.

 

[FarawayFriend]

I suspect he has earned the respect of the majority so why sweat the minority. History has a strange way of setting the record straight with enough time.

True again.
But only if those of us who understand what he intended talk about it. Thank you all for your opinion!!