Dick Cheney, Jubal Early

[Major James B. Ronan II]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ntroversy-gettysburg-108538.html#.U7VJnrCmdYc

 

[East Tennessee Roots]

http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ntroversy-gettysburg-108538.html#.U7VJnrCmdYc

The "Gray Ghost," John Mosby also became a republican and was shunned by a number of his former comrades. He was asked in his later years, if he believed in a literal hell. He answered he most certainly did. "I'm a republican from Virginia, I live there !"

 

[KeyserSoze]

Don't let the title fool you, it's almost exclusively about the blame game that went on over the second day at Gettysburg. A very interesting read from Politico.

Dick Cheney, Jubal Early and the Truth About Gettysburg

 

[Rebforever]

Have re(a)d

 

[JerseyBart]

Jubal...Jubal...Jubal...wasn't your corps commander supposed to attack the heights on day one??? How'd that work out???
...Glass house and stones
...1 finger pointing at Longstreet, 3 pointing back at Ewell

Cool article!!! Thank you for sharing.

 

[Rebforever]

Jubal...Jubal...Jubal...wasn't your corps commander supposed to attack the heights on day one??? How'd that work out???
...Glass house and stones
...1 finger pointing at Longstreet, 3 pointing back at Ewell

Cool article!!! Thank you for sharing.

Right on there, my friend. For whatever reason Ewell had. Hill didn't back him up either.

 

[CSA Today]

Don't let the title fool you, it's almost exclusively about the blame game that went on over the second day at Gettysburg. A very interesting read from Politico.

Dick Cheney, Jubal Early and the Truth About Gettysburg

"History Dept."

"Dick Cheney, Jubal Early and the Truth About Gettysburg." The post 1960 revisionists are getting weirder by the day.

 

[KeyserSoze]

The post 1960 revisionists are getting weirder by the day.

Really? Have you posted something else and I missed it?

 

[M E Wolf]

Don't let the title fool you, it's almost exclusively about the blame game that went on over the second day at Gettysburg. A very interesting read from Politico.

Dick Cheney, Jubal Early and the Truth About Gettysburg

MODERATOR'S NOTE:

Having read the link provided by KeyserSoze, the topic of the article is indeed misleading and the contents are more Civil War with only the last paragraph of caution to modern political figures. This satisfies the forum requirements and on topic.

M. E. Wolf
POSTED IN THE CAPACITY OF MODERATOR
July 3, 2014 10:45 a.m.

 

[CSA Today]

Really? Have you posted something else and I missed it?

Why don't you check and see.

 

[Bonny Blue Flag]

Maybe I misread the article....where is the "Dick Cheney" part? A tag line to get your attention.

Fully agree, M.E. Wolf.

--BBF

 

[M E Wolf]

For me, personally, it is a great sadness that so many Confederate veterans had to be drawn into the falsehoods.

In addition, the wisdom of the article proves that past, present or future, all should walk with honor and speak with truth and be willing to provide the sources and, even with opinion and assumptions, admit that they are just that --opinion and or assumptions, even feelings--where evidence is not required to the higher degree.

True, is the fact when finger points to one, three fingers point to the individual pointing. It is a good reminder for all of us no matter what we may do or say.

For Lieutenant-General James Longstreet, CSA he, I would imagine, would be so grateful for this article as to validate his memoirs and his accounts of things. Its understandably why the memoirs were so 'tense' and 'defensive' when it came to the Gettysburg campaign.

It reminds me of those here on this site, who get piled on and or personally attacked, why it is so important to cease this behavior immediately. The facts should and must stand on their own weight and without being cherry-picked or skewed to be presented--must be judged with an open mind, to accept them be they good, bad, ugly or heroic.

Rest in Peace now, Lieutenant-General Longstreet.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
M. E. Wolf

 

[Dave Wilma]

The headline is click bait. And we bit. I think the web slaves factor in ACW language into headlines to sucker in surfers like us. The clicks mean micro revenue for the sites.

 

[M E Wolf]

Maybe I misread the article....where is the "Dick Cheney" part? A tag line to get your attention.

Fully agree, M.E. Wolf.

--BBF

At the very end it mentions Dick Cheney -- in summary, warns that by blaming others falsely, it may come back later to bite them--even if it takes 148 years to do so.

M. E. Wolf

 

[OpnCoronet]

Jubal Early, Ewell's 'eminence gries' of II Corps.

 

[diane]

Really excellent article. Thanks for posting it!

 

[Rebforever]

I have

For me, personally, it is a great sadness that so many Confederate veterans had to be drawn into the falsehoods.

In addition, the wisdom of the article proves that past, present or future, all should walk with honor and speak with truth and be willing to provide the sources and, even with opinion and assumptions, admit that they are just that --opinion and or assumptions, even feelings--where evidence is not required to the higher degree.

True, is the fact when finger points to one, three fingers point to the individual pointing. It is a good reminder for all of us no matter what we may do or say.

For Lieutenant-General James Longstreet, CSA he, I would imagine, would be so grateful for this article as to validate his memoirs and his accounts of things. Its understandably why the memoirs were so 'tense' and 'defensive' when it came to the Gettysburg campaign.

It reminds me of those here on this site, who get piled on and or personally attacked, why it is so important to cease this behavior immediately. The facts should and must stand on their own weight and without being cherry-picked or skewed to be presented--must be judged with an open mind, to accept them be they good, bad, ugly or heroic.

Rest in Peace now, Lieutenant-General Longstreet.

Just my thoughts and opinions.
M. E. Wolf

I would say that too many folks believe too much of what is in Longstreet's memoirs. He misleads on lots of history
that can be proven wrong by comparing to today's historians. Was he a great soldier? Danged right! Was he a truthful leader? NO!!

 

[diane]

I've always thought it was interesting that Early and company made these comments AFTER Robert E Lee was dead. Lee would not have let such misconstructions stand, I'm very sure. Longstreet, as Rebforever points out, added to the load by his agenda - granted, he was put in the position of having to defend his actions but still he didn't remember it quite the way it happened! In the methinks-he-doth-protest-too-much category, I think Early had a lot more guilty conscience than not. He also failed to check up on gunfire he heard a few miles away while heading for Gettysburg - if he'd done so he'd have found Jeb Stuart in time for Gettysburg. As it was, Stuart wandered in the wilderness for a lot longer.

 

[rpkennedy]

I have


I would say that too many folks believe too much of what is in Longstreet's memoirs. He misleads on lots of history
that can be proven wrong by comparing to today's historians. Was he a great soldier? Danged right! Was he a truthful leader? NO!!

Lee was barely in the ground when Early begins his attack on Longstreet and Longstreet writes his memoir as a defense against that attack. Frankly, both sides were full of it.

R

 

[Mild53]

Nice article, but I am curious about the title of your post though. Is Cheney acting like Early, making up facts?