Cattle Question

Sheltowee

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Perhaps an odd question- but I am curious.

Was there one breed of beef cow that was most prevalent during the 1860s? I've read that longhorn were most common out west, and shorthorn were the majority in the east. Sound correct?

Not familiar with shorthorn breed. I know that Henry Clay introduced Hereford in 1817, but angus did not arrive until post-war.

Today, seems angus/ angus mix might be most popular. Hereford are not seen in as large of numbers as they were in the 1970s (at least around here). And I have no idea that I have ever even seen a shorthorn.

Anyone have a direction on this?
 
From what I can find shorthorns were developed in northeast England in the late 18th century . They were imported sometime in the first quarter of the 19th century . Originally used for dairy and meat the breed was later developed into a dairy type and a separate beef type.
Galloway cattle were developed in Scotland and imported in the 1850s . At one time they were very popular but no longer .
The Dutch Belted was imported in the 1830s and the Holstein Friesian breed was imported in the 1700s.
 
There is a fundamental principle that underlies the development of domestic breeds. Cattle, hogs, chickens & Guinea pigs were developed to fulfill needs for certain products.

In the 19th Century, there were none of the petroleum based products we take for granted. Hogs were bred to produce lard, for example. It is a vital ingredient in all period cookbooks. Tallow was another type of fat with many uses.

There were no breeds of cattle in the 1860's that produced the kind of well marbled steaks & roasts that fill supermarket coolers today. A diary cow has to bring a calf to term regularly in order to produce milk. That created the stock of young cattle raised for meat.

The Durham breed was introduced into the US from England on the early 1800's. Commonly referred to as shorthorns, they had fleshier bodies than previous breeds. They were also good milk producers. Shorthorns became the dominant domestic breed in the Eastern US.

In the 1500's, Spanish explorers & conquistadores introduced cattle to North America. By 1860 a distinctive breed of longhorn cattle had adapted to what is now Mexico & the Southwestern US.

Unlike their docile short horned cousins, longhorns were wiley, adaptable & dangerous to be around. Large herds ranged freely in Texas. Longhorns were valued for their tallow, horns & hides, not meat or milk products.

In his 3 volume history of the Vicksburg campaign, Ed Bearss documented a herd of Texas longhorns that swam the Mississippi & came ashore near Vicksburg. What would seem a great blessing was, in fact, a source of consternation.

Pemberton's QM's were faced with a daunting challenge. There simply was not enough pasturage in Western Mississippi to graze that many cattle. They were free range cattle & would not touch dry fodder. There was nowhere near enough salt available to process the meat, & valuable hides. (Fresh hides are scraped clean, soaked in brine (heavily salted water.) then folded up & packed in salt for transport to a tannery.

You can imagine the mix of alarm & exasperation when herds of wild longhorns were issued to Pemberton's regiments. The small, rawboned specimens had walked hundreds of miles. Their meager lean flesh was all but unchewablly tough. At least the soldiers could have make spoons, cups & other handy things from the horns.

Born & bred in cattle country, I am deeply sorry I never got to hear Ed Bearss' telling of the Texican cattle that swam the river. I am sure it would have been wryly amusing in the extreme.

Contrast the Vicksburg herd with the three thousand head that played an unsung part in the Battle of Alatoona.

US Signal Corps Captain McClintock kept the Kennesaw Mountain Station logbook with the famous exchanges between Sherman & general Gross at Alatoona. In between those stirring messages is something of a most surprising nature.

Off to the west of Hood's hungry infantry were reenlisted regiments returning from home leave. At Chattanooga, they had been assigned escort duty for a herd of several thousand shorthorn cattle. From his mountain airy Sherman kept the herd safely away from Hood's hungry men using flags & torches.

Not only was Hood's infantry denied a million rations of hardtack at Alatoona, they had no fresh beef to fry it up with, either.

NOTE:: There are pages of detailed information on cattle in 1860 available from the US Census.

"Agriculture of the United States in 1860, introduction." at <census,gov> breaks down cattle, milk & cheese production & other facts by region.

Guinea pigs (cui) are still a staple of the diet of indigenous people in the high Andes Mountains of South America.
 
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There is a fundamental principle that underlies the development of domestic breeds. Cattle, hogs, chickens & Guinea pigs were developed to fulfill needs for certain products.

In the 19th Century, there were none of the petroleum based products we take for granted. Hogs were bred to produce lard, for example. It is a vital ingredient in all period cookbooks. Tallow was another type of fat with many uses.

There were no breeds of cattle in the 1860's that produced the kind of well marbled steaks & roasts that fill supermarket coolers today. A diary cow has to bring a calf to term regularly in order to produce milk. That created the stock of young cattle raised for meat.

The Durham breed was introduced into the US from England on the early 1800's. Commonly referred to as shorthorns, they had fleshier bodies than previous breeds. They were also good milk producers. Shorthorns became the dominant domestic breed in the Eastern US.

In the 1500's, Spanish explorers & conquistadores introduced cattle to North America. By 1860 a distinctive breed of longhorn cattle had adapted to what is now Mexico & the Southwestern US.

Unlike their docile short horned cousins, longhorns were wiley, adaptable & dangerous to be around. Large herds ranged freely in Texas. Longhorns were valued for their tallow & hides, not meat or milk products.

In his 3 volume history of the Vicksburg campaign, Ed Bearss documented a herd of Texas longhorns that swam the Mississippi & came ashore near Vicksburg. What would seem a great blessing was, in fact, a source of consternation.

Pemberton's QM's were faced with a daunting challenge. There simply was not enough pasturage in Western Mississippi to graze that many cattle. They were free range cattle & would not touch dry fodder. There was nowhere near enough salt available to process the meat, & valuable hides. (Fresh hides are scraped clean, soaked in brine (heavily salted water.) then folded up & packed in salt for transport to a tannery.

You can imagine the mix of alarm & exasperation when herds of wild longhorns were issued to Pemberton's regiments. The small, rawboned specimens had walked hundreds of miles. Their meager lean flesh was all but unchewablly tough. At least the soldiers could have make spoons, cups & other handy things from the horns.

Born & bred in cattle country, I am deeply sorry I never got to hear Ed Bearss' telling of the Texican cattle that swam the river. I am sure it would have been wryly amusing in the extreme.

Contrast the Vicksburg herd with the three thousand head that played an unsung part in the Battle of Alatoona.

US Signal Corps Captain McClintock kept the Kennesaw Mountain Station logbook with the famous exchanges between Sherman & general Gross at Alatoona. In between those stirring messages is something of a most surprising nature.

Off to the west of Hood's hungry infantry were reenlisted regiments returning from home leave. At Chattanooga, they had been assigned escort duty for a herd of several thousand shorthorn cattle. From his mountain airy Sherman kept the herd safely away from Hood's hungry men using flags & torches.

Not only was Hood's infantry denied a million rations of hardtack at Alatoona, they had no fresh beef to fry it up with, either.

NOTE:: There are pages of detailed information on cattle in 1860 available from the US Census.

"Agriculture of the United States in 1860, introduction." at <census,gov> breaks down cattle, milk & cheese production & other facts by region.

Guinea pigs (cui) are still a staple of the diet of indigenous people in the high Andes Mountains of South America.


Many thanks for the info.

So, in a nutshell- during the CW, the shorthorn was the dominant breed in the eastern US. Valued for ability to serve the dual functions of milk and beef production. Also easy calvers and good foragers.

So I have my answer.

Attaching a link, for any who might be interested. Still not certain I have ever seen one. Maybe- and I just never knew it?

Note- Santa Gertrudis was developed from shorthorn.

 
Perhaps an odd question- but I am curious.

Was there one breed of beef cow that was most prevalent during the 1860s? I've read that longhorn were most common out west, and shorthorn were the majority in the east. Sound correct?

Not familiar with shorthorn breed. I know that Henry Clay introduced Hereford in 1817, but angus did not arrive until post-war.

Today, seems angus/ angus mix might be most popular. Hereford are not seen in as large of numbers as they were in the 1970s (at least around here). And I have no idea that I have ever even seen a shorthorn.

Anyone have a direction on this?
As a long time student of the civil war and as a relatively long time cattle farmer - you present interesting questions .
Today the black - white face (Herford/Angus cross breed) produce the best meat. But I hadn't thought much about the needs for feeding and army or family in the mid 1800s. With that said, a dairy cow was a must for large families, that would later be slaughtered for meat after the milk production slowed. Mort Kuntsler, who was a stickler for being precise, used short horns for his painting of Wade Hampton's "The Great Beefsteak Raid". I do believe most 19th century images of cows I ve seen in the eastern theater were short horns or dairy.
 
There is a fundamental principle that underlies the development of domestic breeds. Cattle, hogs, chickens & Guinea pigs were developed to fulfill needs for certain products.

In the 19th Century, there were none of the petroleum based products we take for granted. Hogs were bred to produce lard, for example. It is a vital ingredient in all period cookbooks. Tallow was another type of fat with many uses.

There were no breeds of cattle in the 1860's that produced the kind of well marbled steaks & roasts that fill supermarket coolers today. A diary cow has to bring a calf to term regularly in order to produce milk. That created the stock of young cattle raised for meat.

The Durham breed was introduced into the US from England on the early 1800's. Commonly referred to as shorthorns, they had fleshier bodies than previous breeds. They were also good milk producers. Shorthorns became the dominant domestic breed in the Eastern US.

In the 1500's, Spanish explorers & conquistadores introduced cattle to North America. By 1860 a distinctive breed of longhorn cattle had adapted to what is now Mexico & the Southwestern US.

Unlike their docile short horned cousins, longhorns were wiley, adaptable & dangerous to be around. Large herds ranged freely in Texas. Longhorns were valued for their tallow & hides, not meat or milk products.

In his 3 volume history of the Vicksburg campaign, Ed Bearss documented a herd of Texas longhorns that swam the Mississippi & came ashore near Vicksburg. What would seem a great blessing was, in fact, a source of consternation.

Pemberton's QM's were faced with a daunting challenge. There simply was not enough pasturage in Western Mississippi to graze that many cattle. They were free range cattle & would not touch dry fodder. There was nowhere near enough salt available to process the meat, & valuable hides. (Fresh hides are scraped clean, soaked in brine (heavily salted water.) then folded up & packed in salt for transport to a tannery.

You can imagine the mix of alarm & exasperation when herds of wild longhorns were issued to Pemberton's regiments. The small, rawboned specimens had walked hundreds of miles. Their meager lean flesh was all but unchewablly tough. At least the soldiers could have make spoons, cups & other handy things from the horns.

Born & bred in cattle country, I am deeply sorry I never got to hear Ed Bearss' telling of the Texican cattle that swam the river. I am sure it would have been wryly amusing in the extreme.

Contrast the Vicksburg herd with the three thousand head that played an unsung part in the Battle of Alatoona.

US Signal Corps Captain McClintock kept the Kennesaw Mountain Station logbook with the famous exchanges between Sherman & general Gross at Alatoona. In between those stirring messages is something of a most surprising nature.

Off to the west of Hood's hungry infantry were reenlisted regiments returning from home leave. At Chattanooga, they had been assigned escort duty for a herd of several thousand shorthorn cattle. From his mountain airy Sherman kept the herd safely away from Hood's hungry men using flags & torches.

Not only was Hood's infantry denied a million rations of hardtack at Alatoona, they had no fresh beef to fry it up with, either.

NOTE:: There are pages of detailed information on cattle in 1860 available from the US Census.

"Agriculture of the United States in 1860, introduction." at <census,gov> breaks down cattle, milk & cheese production & other facts by region.

Guinea pigs (cui) are still a staple of the diet of indigenous people in the high Andes Mountains of South America.

Guinea pigs (cui) are still a staple of the diet of indigenous people in the high Andes Mountains of South America.
Sampled a few times on a climbing trip to Peru. Actually pretty good if you don't think of the splayed out carcass you're diving into as somebody's pet.
 
Florida became the chief source of cattle for the Confederacy after the fall of Vicksburg. They originated with European stock but eventually became known as Andalusian/Caribbean cattle.

 
Florida became the chief source of cattle for the Confederacy after the fall of Vicksburg. They originated with European stock but eventually became known as Andalusian/Caribbean cattle.


Interesting article. Thanks
 
Florida became the chief source of cattle for the Confederacy after the fall of Vicksburg. They originated with European stock but eventually became known as Andalusian/Caribbean cattle.



The term 'cracker' as in whips originated in Florida.

https://www.news-journalonline.com/...s-origin-characteristics-crackers/5882358001/


 
Florida became the chief source of cattle for the Confederacy after the fall of Vicksburg. They originated with European stock but eventually became known as Andalusian/Caribbean cattle.


Interesting article. Thanks

As an historical anomaly it may be noted that the Federals encouraged blockade running of cattle cargoes out of Fort Myers because the runners were taking stock to Cuba instead of the Confederacy. The sellers often preferred Cuba as a destination because they were customarily paid in gold specie instead of Confederate scrip.
 
Sampled a few times on a climbing trip to Peru. Actually pretty good if you don't think of the splayed out carcass you're diving into as somebody's pet.
I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Ecuador. If you are a welcome guest in a village, from far off you can see a woman banging cui heads on the ground, rolling them in the fire to burn off the hair & splaying them out for roasting. By the time you arrive potatoes have boiled & a festive meal is prepared.

My referred meal from the roadside was a roast cui, corn on the cob, & fresh cheese. Have to admit that the splayed out rodent with gaping teeth is off putting.
 
Florida became the chief source of cattle for the Confederacy after the fall of Vicksburg. They originated with European stock but eventually became known as Andalusian/Caribbean cattle.

I have seen a couple of videos about producers who raise heritage Florida cattle. Definitely a labor of love. They are an interesting looking breed, you can say that for them.
 
I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Ecuador. If you are a welcome guest in a village, from far off you can see a woman banging cui heads on the ground, rolling them in the fire to burn off the hair & splaying them out for roasting. By the time you arrive potatoes have boiled & a festive meal is prepared.

My referred meal from the roadside was a roast cui, corn on the cob, & fresh cheese. Have to admit that the splayed out rodent with gaping teeth is off putting.
Helps to have a cup of Chicha to wash it down.
 
Florida cattle, which were an important source of Confederate beef, especially post-Vicksburg, were mostly descendants of Spanish cattle. Not longhorns. Probably the least beefy of the cattle available.


They ran loose in the scrub and prairies most of the year then were rounded up when beef was needed. Because there was so much underbrush the cowmen snapped big whips to steer the cattle. (Above the heads of the cattle; they didn't strike the animals.) Very distinctive sound - a cross between snapping a leather belt and the crack of a loud rifle. Also good for signaling each other.

Cracker cowmen were every bit as rough and tumble as Western cowboys; probably moreso. None of the glamor of the West. In the 1860s mostly from Georgia, or sons of migrants from there. Very low literacy. Shotguns instead of sixshooters, plus the whips. There was a short blood feud in Central Florida during Reconstruction between two families that killed approximately 40 people


Florida native grass isn't very good for fattening cattle. All the grass used today for Florida ranching is non-native. But there was a lot of unused space in 19th century Florida.

Lake Kissimmee State Park has a weekend cow camp during the winter that's well worth a visit.

Fifth or sixth generation Floridians proudly call themselves Florida Crackers, even if they've long since left farming and ranching behind.
 
Helps to have a cup of Chicha to wash it down.
Well… oh lord… chicha. Every woman had her own recipe & bio-profile. She chewed & spit the corn mash into the fermenting jar. As God is my witness, a common flavoring agent was kerosene (!).

The custom was to quaff the first bowl offered. "Upiashun!" (Bottoms up!) "Mishki-mishki!" (Good-good…) "Upishun!" & quaff a second bowl. Smile while intestinal bugs start to multiply by millions… let the burbling & gurgling begin!
 
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