Breechldrs Carbines for viewing

[Trooper "D"]

For your Saturday morning viewing pleasure. Hope you enjoy.

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Very nice. I don't readily recognize them so discussing them helps me ID. Joselyns on the bottom?

 

[7th Texas Mounted Rifles]

We expect cutesy names from the Army, but the men of the Marine Corps simply refer to it by its nomenclature - a poncho liner. No need for nicknames in the Corps....Just sayin'.

Friendly fire - and that's a big negative, sir.

From the branch of 'devil dogs', 'leathernecks' and 'jarheads' who brought us 'ranger panties' / 'silkies', 'go-fasters' and 'cammies' …and affectionately refers to their E-7's as 'Gunny'…

But ya'll didn't use nicknames in the Corps?

Just sayin'.

 

[vmicraig]

Friendly fire - and that's a big negative, sir.

From the branch of 'devil dogs', 'leathernecks' and 'jarheads' who brought us 'ranger panties' / 'silkies', 'go-fasters' and 'cammies' …and affectionately refers to their E-7's as 'Gunny'…

But ya'll didn't use nicknames in the Corps?

Just sayin'.

Well played, Sir, well played!

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

First post here! I recently acquired an unusual lifting breech carbine. There is no maker or arsenal marks of any sort that I can find. Most all the carbines I have seen have side mounted hammers, have sling swivel, use a keeper on the barrel band, and are not a solid block that lifts to clear the frame and accept the paper cartridge and primer on a fixed nipple attached to the rear of the block receiver. You actuate the lever in the downward position the entire breach, elevates upward at the same rate to expose a breech block block that is hollowed out in front to receive a charge and ball and in the back has a fixed musket nipple system. Return the lever to a snap in keeper pin to seal the breech and fire. The wood to metal fit is razor tight. All the screws are untouched and screw heads aligned. Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Patio]

Very nice. I don't readily recognize them so discussing them helps me ID. Joselyns on the bottom?

You are correct.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy

 

[vmicraig]

First post here! I recently acquired an unusual lifting breech carbine. There is no maker or arsenal marks of any sort that I can find. Most all the carbines I have seen have side mounted hammers, have sling swivel, use a keeper on the barrel band, and are not a solid block that lifts to clear the frame and accept the paper cartridge and primer on a fixed nipple attached to the rear of the block receiver. You actuate the lever in the downward position the entire breach, elevates upward at the same rate to expose a breech block block that is hollowed out in front to receive a charge and ball and in the back has a fixed musket nipple system. Return the lever to a snap in keeper pin to seal the breech and fire. The wood to metal fit is razor tight. All the screws are untouched and screw heads aligned. Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated!

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I've never seen that before. Are there any markings visible inside the breech or can you disassemble ? Perhaps it's a prototype? It's got a lever that is similar to a Gibbs or Grapevine, yet also has some resemblance to a Broughton #18 and even a Sharps in some respect….or a Morse. Maybe it was a one off built for the Confederacy that's never been identified! Wouldn't that be cool? It's like a Frankenstein carbine/rifle. I'm perplexed! Honestly, you should delete the pics from this post as not to hijack it and put them in their own post, as it will get more initial views.

 

[Papabyrd]

These pictures were taken several years ago and i have added a few more since. I think i have 27 or 28 total.

 

[JOHN42768]

Great selection

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

I've never seen that before. Are there any markings visible inside the breech or can you disassemble ? Perhaps it's a prototype? It's got a lever that is similar to a Gibbs or Grapevine, yet also has some resemblance to a Broughton #18 and even a Sharps in some respect….or a Morse. Maybe it was a one off built for the Confederacy that's never been identified! Wouldn't that be cool? It's like a Frankenstein carbine/rifle. I'm perplexed! Honestly, you should delete the pics from this post as not to hijack it and put them in their own post, as it will get more initial views.

Thank for the advice! I an going to stat a new thread "Unknown lifting breech carbine"

 

[504PIR]

Very nice, motivates me to work harder!

 

[vmicraig]

These pictures were taken several years ago and i have added a few more since. I think i have 27 or 28 total. View attachment 553107View attachment 553108

Awesome collection. Get thee a custom made rack for those beauties

 

[Papabyrd]

Wish I had room to put my carbines on the wall but no room plus the wife said no !!!

 

[Trooper "D"]

These pictures were taken several years ago and i have added a few more since. I think i have 27 or 28 total. View attachment 553107View attachment 553108

What a couch full of goodness!

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

These pictures were taken several years ago and i have added a few more since. I think i have 27 or 28 total. View attachment 553107View attachment 553108

WOW! What a beautiful collection! I am still actively researching my carbine and am fascinated by the huge hodge podge of ideas all ran together to create such a variety of arms! Supply demands for parts and equipment would have been a major nightmare!

I have tried to focus on the differences instead of the similarities? Different:
Inline hammer
Center mount rear nipple on breech -(not side or top)
Longer (?) Forearm than most with 1 band and no keeper design- 1 tiny screw holds it
Crescent butt stock with overly generous curve

I hope everyone has a great Fourth of July

 

[Trooper "D"]

WOW! What a beautiful collection! I am still actively researching my carbine and am fascinated by the huge hodge podge of ideas all ran together to create such a variety of arms! Supply demands for parts and equipment would have been a major nightmare!

I have tried to focus on the differences instead of the similarities? Different:
Inline hammer
Center mount rear nipple on breech -(not side or top)
Longer (?) Forearm than most with 1 band and no keeper design- 1 tiny screw holds it
Crescent butt stock with overly generous curve

I hope everyone has a great Fourth of July

Happy Independence Day to you and all on CWT.