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Ferd454231

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Next week I'm going to the Nat'l Archives to research some serial numbers from my carbine and revolver collection. I have done alot of reading on procedures, dos and don'ts, etc., etc. I am wondering if any of you have additional tips or advice so I can make the most of my 3 day excursion? Any help is appreciated. H
 
From my perspective researching in British archives... have a plan and stick to it! You will come across interesting material not releted to your primary reason for being there. Make a note of the document reference and move on - if you're not careful you'll use time up reading good stuff but not what you came for! :)

David
 
Are you planning on looking at the ordnance records which the SRS is based on?
 
First this is a recon mission. I need to understand what is available and where to look; plus I just want to see the Archives. Second I am planning to use the Adjutant Generals reports RG94, entries 113 and 114, the main correspondence and the inventions , entry 192,in RG156. Then its off to the Ordinance records and as many regimental returns as necessary . I have a handful of regiments that I am looking to (if I have deduced correctly). I am sure that I will tread over ground that has already been mined; but it is as much about learning the process as finding that magic connection between my carbines and revolvers and what group or individual they were attached to. I subscribe to US Martial Arms Collector so if I get really frustrated I can always drop a line and some dough to Mr. Gagner. Thank you for asking. H
 
Archive records of the actual serial numbers of carbines or revolvers issued to particular units or soldiers are very scarce. That's because such listings were not required to be kept by the military, and the rare lists surviving are examples of unnecessary recordkeeping that survived by accident and were discovered in the archives by accident.

Although the various units were required to make reports of the types and numbers of arms on hand, neither the Union nor Confederate military had any requirement that the serial number of a gun should be recorded as it was issued to a soldier or sailor.

Serial number lists in the archives are typically found in Cavalry Company Day Books, where some solder who was a store clerk in civilian life made the sort of inventory he had kept in civilian business.

Where I have seen actual photocopies of such lists, the serial numbers were part of a more comprehensive chart showing for each trooper the type and amount of equipment he had (and was responsible for), most of it horse tack, such as saddles, halters, curry combs, hoof picks, saddle blankets, as well as saber, revolver and carbine.

This was not a report required to be kept of these serials, but the writer added that info to a general equipment listing kept for his cavalry company, and sometimes such a list survived and is discovered.

I think of these lists as similar to the penciled grocery lists I have made over the decades. I have made hundreds of grocery lists to use same week I made them and then threw them away – there may be a few that have survived by accident (such as if I used one as a bookmark,) but my hundreds of grocery lists were not required forms, were made for my own immediate use, not required to be retained, and so pretty much all thrown away over the years.
 
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i made a similar discovery re: your first two paragraphs. The rest is news to me. Hey I still got to do some research and I know more at this moment about process then I did even a few minutes ago. Thank you so much Jeff and greetings from Fairfield. H
 
Sorry. Ohio. Just north of the city where professional sports go to die. That would be Cincinnati. Made my trip the week of T-Giving.
H.
 
I am in central Ohio, just a bit south of Columbus.

Did you find much of interest?

It is a surprise to most Civil War Buffs just how little archive info in available to show what unit or what soldier got a specific arm. One window on this question is to look at the SRS records, and you will see that:

The SRS has only two lists of confederate issued arms identified by serial number:

The first is the famous Pratt Roll list of a couple dozen guns in the hands of a single Virginia cavalry company in 1864. All were British made percussion revolvers of various makes, none are Colts.

The second is a list of guns in the hands of a single Tennessee cavalry company formed August of 1861 in Knoxville, Tennessee, and these are all Colt Model 1851 Navies.

This is all of the lists that SRS has of revolvers in the hands of confederate soldiers – there are no others!

There are a few random confederate serial numbers scattered throughout their database, but just a very few, and not other listings of a dozen guns or more.
 

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