A lesson for Quantrill guerrilla research

[Quantrill's Missouri]

After a conversation on CWT about being careful how to determine if a person was IN Quantrill's Missouri guerrillas or "rode with" them, I thought I would broaden this subject for anyone interested by using research I conducted over several years. There are many lists out there in books written through the many years that show many of the same names that were actual Quantrill guerrillas and have a reliable track record of being at many battles, raids and so on (Todd, Poole, George bros., James bros., Gregg, the Chiles, etc., etc.). With that, there are also hundreds upon hundreds of names that give the assumption or information that they were Quantrill guerrillas which are false or have no way to check on their authenticity. Additionally, there are many men who did serve with Quantrill and/or Anderson and do not show up in books, but are on other lists unseen to the public. Here is a perfect example:
James Warren "Wick" Welch.

James does not show up in any lists online or in books. Period. But, thanks to a trip to the Jackson County Historical Society in Independence, Mo., I was able to pour over the Warren Welch papers. Warren Welch is one of the most known and somewhat famous of Quantrill and Anderson's men. James is his brother. Through the years of the Quantrill reunions, Warren would write up lists, to the best of his elderly knowledge, of everyone he remembered serving with the guerrillas. James appears on a few of those lists and a list of those who surrendered to Captain Rogers at Independence. With further research and help from Quantrill author, Paul Petersen, we found that James was at the Lawrence raid, the fight at Baxter Springs, Ks. and the July 1864 fight against Capt. Wagoner 2nd Colorado at Independence, Mo. He and his wife, Julia moved to Arkansas where they lived in Decatur, Benton County, in the upper most northwest corner. They are buried together in Decatur Cemetery, both unmarked. I have an idea to the proximity of where they are buried.

If there is interest in this thread, I would be happy to share much of my research with all of you since my Quantrill collection idea didn't go too far. There are A LOT of stories to tell.

James Warren Welch - Find a Grave Memorial

Confederate Soldier Buried in Benton County Arkansas 15th Missouri Cavalry, Co. A Per -Dorothy and checking all of the Hillcrest Cemetery records. I have moved James to the Decatur Cemetery. There is a headstone for him, Donna

www.findagrave.com

 

[archieclement]

Indeed local historical societies and libraries, and county histories are where one gets in the weeds to really find stuff. In the 1870-80s most counties had county histories written. Those period history's are the size of big city phone books, with biographical histories of prominent settlers, detailed history down to individual townships. Considered most counties only had history mainly starting from 1820s, ACW and prewar incidents are prominent.

 

[52ndFandS]

After a conversation on CWT about being careful how to determine if a person was IN Quantrill's Missouri guerrillas or "rode with" them, I thought I would broaden this subject for anyone interested by using research I conducted over several years. There are many lists out there in books written through the many years that show many of the same names that were actual Quantrill guerrillas and have a reliable track record of being at many battles, raids and so on (Todd, Poole, George bros., James bros., Gregg, the Chiles, etc., etc.). With that, there are also hundreds upon hundreds of names that give the assumption or information that they were Quantrill guerrillas which are false or have no way to check on their authenticity. Additionally, there are many men who did serve with Quantrill and/or Anderson and do not show up in books, but are on other lists unseen to the public. Here is a perfect example:
James Warren "Wick" Welch.

James does not show up in any lists online or in books. Period. But, thanks to a trip to the Jackson County Historical Society in Independence, Mo., I was able to pour over the Warren Welch papers. Warren Welch is one of the most known and somewhat famous of Quantrill and Anderson's men. James is his brother. Through the years of the Quantrill reunions, Warren would write up lists, to the best of his elderly knowledge, of everyone he remembered serving with the guerrillas. James appears on a few of those lists and a list of those who surrendered to Captain Rogers at Independence. With further research and help from Quantrill author, Paul Petersen, we found that James was at the Lawrence raid, the fight at Baxter Springs, Ks. and the July 1864 fight against Capt. Wagoner 2nd Colorado at Independence, Mo. He and his wife, Julia moved to Arkansas where they lived in Decatur, Benton County, in the upper most northwest corner. They are buried together in Decatur Cemetery, both unmarked. I have an idea to the proximity of where they are buried.

If there is interest in this thread, I would be happy to share much of my research with all of you since my Quantrill collection idea didn't go too far. There are A LOT of stories to tell.

James Warren Welch - Find a Grave Memorial

Confederate Soldier Buried in Benton County Arkansas 15th Missouri Cavalry, Co. A Per -Dorothy and checking all of the Hillcrest Cemetery records. I have moved James to the Decatur Cemetery. There is a headstone for him, Donna

www.findagrave.com

Suspiciously starting like a relative. Warren is a name within the family. Do you know where the 15th was raised?

 

[Quantrill's Missouri]

Suspiciously starting like a relative. Warren is a name within the family. Do you know where the 15th was raised?

Pocahontas, Arkansas, I believe.

 

[52ndFandS]

Pocahontas, Arkansas, I believe.

I had a relative in the 10th Volunteer Arkansas, C. C. He was from middle TN but went out there... there have been rumors about a partisan in the family. I've always assumed it was Champ Ferguson. Now am more interested and totally weirded out.

 

[Bryce]

After a conversation on CWT about being careful how to determine if a person was IN Quantrill's Missouri guerrillas or "rode with" them, I thought I would broaden this subject for anyone interested by using research I conducted over several years. There are many lists out there in books written through the many years that show many of the same names that were actual Quantrill guerrillas and have a reliable track record of being at many battles, raids and so on (Todd, Poole, George bros., James bros., Gregg, the Chiles, etc., etc.). With that, there are also hundreds upon hundreds of names that give the assumption or information that they were Quantrill guerrillas which are false or have no way to check on their authenticity. Additionally, there are many men who did serve with Quantrill and/or Anderson and do not show up in books, but are on other lists unseen to the public. Here is a perfect example:
James Warren "Wick" Welch.

James does not show up in any lists online or in books. Period. But, thanks to a trip to the Jackson County Historical Society in Independence, Mo., I was able to pour over the Warren Welch papers. Warren Welch is one of the most known and somewhat famous of Quantrill and Anderson's men. James is his brother. Through the years of the Quantrill reunions, Warren would write up lists, to the best of his elderly knowledge, of everyone he remembered serving with the guerrillas. James appears on a few of those lists and a list of those who surrendered to Captain Rogers at Independence. With further research and help from Quantrill author, Paul Petersen, we found that James was at the Lawrence raid, the fight at Baxter Springs, Ks. and the July 1864 fight against Capt. Wagoner 2nd Colorado at Independence, Mo. He and his wife, Julia moved to Arkansas where they lived in Decatur, Benton County, in the upper most northwest corner. They are buried together in Decatur Cemetery, both unmarked. I have an idea to the proximity of where they are buried.

If there is interest in this thread, I would be happy to share much of my research with all of you since my Quantrill collection idea didn't go too far. There are A LOT of stories to tell.

James Warren Welch - Find a Grave Memorial

Confederate Soldier Buried in Benton County Arkansas 15th Missouri Cavalry, Co. A Per -Dorothy and checking all of the Hillcrest Cemetery records. I have moved James to the Decatur Cemetery. There is a headstone for him, Donna

www.findagrave.com

You need to get in touch with Mike Banasik. He's a friend of mine and I can help you reach him. He knows a lot about the grows and can share information with you. Also, there's a fellow named Nichols who is written for volumes on the guerilla warfare in Missouri. you need to talk to him too