Trivia 9-6-18 Never Won

[Trivia Master]

Name the Two Union Generals who never won a Battle (whilst Generals)

credit: @JOHN42768

 

[hughes]

General Mills
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If this were about the War of 1812 I would say General Dearborn and General Willkinson (who never won a battle but never lost a court martial)

 

[captaindrew]

McDowell and Banks

 

[connecticut yankee]

I can't even fathom a guess-----There were dozens of Generals on both sides that for various reasons "never won a battle".

 

[Jimklag]

If you mean generals who actually commanded in battles and never won, the answer would be Irvin McDowell and Nathaniel Banks. Port Hudson did surrender to Banks but only because Vicksburg fell previously.

 

[kholland]

I'm guessing John Pope and Irwin McDowell

 

[Brenal]

There are probably many answers to this but I'm still left guessing:
Henry Halleck and John C Fremont?

 

[FarawayFriend]

Wild guessing here: William Tecumseh Sherman and Chester A. Arthur

William Tecumseh Sherman
"William Tecumseh Sherman was never the commanding officer responsible for a major battle, so he never won nor lost a major battle."
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_battle_did_william_tecumseh_sherman_win

"Never won a battle, never lost a campaign"
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a264550.pdf

I was at a loss for the other one but when I re-read the question again, I saw that it does not say that the General in question had to have seen combat! That makes it easier and so I will name Chester A. Arthur, because he fulfills both requirements. He was a Union General but did never win a battle because he never saw combat!

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/history/26-u-s-presidents-military.html

 

[Schwallanscher]

joel w tucker

 

[Schwallanscher]

mea culpa, mea maxima culpa

i shouldn't have two trivia questions open at the same time

 

[Schwallanscher]

as the question does not state they had to take part in a battle in the first place there should be quite a lot. i decided on the two most important non-combatant generals (in no specific order)

• herman haupt
• montgomery cunningham meigs

 

[TomP]

Brig. Gen. Lorenzo Thomas, Adjutant General of the US Army;

Maj. Gen. Henry W. Halleck, General in Chief of the US Army. He rose to his lofty position on the victories of his subordinates. Though he was victorious at the Siege of Corinth, by definition it was not a battle but a siege; there was no major combat by all or the majority of one of the contending armies. There was one engagement (Farmington), one action (Russell's House), and several skirmishes. But no battle.

Tom

 

[JOHN42768]

Question credit

 

[MRB1863]

Stab in the dark guess.....McDowell and Franz Sigel???

 

[WJC]

Name the Two Union Generals who never won a Battle (whilst Generals)

credit: @JOHN42768

Daniel C. McCallum (1815-1878) and Herman Haupt (1817-1905). Both men served in the administration of the United States Military Railroad, McCallum as overall head, Haupt as head of operations in the field.

 

[luinrina]

Quite a question... difficult to search for IMO.

My guesses: Irvin McDowell and John C. Frémont. I read both their wikipedia entries and couldn't find a battle they participated in that they won. Granted, McDowell had two inconclusive battles (Fairfax Courthouse and Arlington Mills) but since a draw is not a victory...

Unless I have a stroke of inspiration what other keywords to search for, these two are my final answers. *crosses fingers*

 

[skirmisher]

The question is a little unclear to me, if it means as head of an Army, or just as generals or what.

But if we interpret as head of a Union Army, I would go with:
Irvin McDowell - head of the then Army of Northeastern Virginia from 27 May to 25 July 1861, with no victories.
Nathaniel Banks - head of the Army of the Shenandoah from 25 July 1861 to 18 March 1862 when the command was folder into the Army of the Potomac.

 

[HarlechMan]

Henry Halleck - Stephen Ambrose wrote that "he had never won a battle" https://books.google.com/books?id=0...&q="never won a battle" union general&f=false

I would have said Banks but apparently Port Hudson would count, so upon further searching I found the original source - https://acws.co.uk/archives-misc-misc

So my answer would have to be John C. Fremont and Irvin McDowell.

 

[Ole Miss]

1) Nathaniel Banks
2) Benjamin Butler
Regards
David

 

[BlueNGrey]

I have absolutely no idea so my two guesses are:
Nathaniel P. "Commissary" Banks
John Alexander McClernand