3rd Tennessee Cavalry relatives?

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Any members here have a relative in the Union Army's 3rd Tennessee Cavalry? My GGGrandfather John W. Miller was a private in Company E and was captured in Athens, AL on September 24, 1864 and sent to Cahaba Prison where he remained until the end of the war.
 
Any members here have a relative in the Union Army's 3rd Tennessee Cavalry? My GGGrandfather John W. Miller was a private in Company E and was captured in Athens, AL on September 24, 1864 and sent to Cahaba Prison where he remained until the end of the war.

None I'm aware of in the Third Cavalry. I had relatives in the 1st & eighth Cavalry. 3rd, 6th, & 7th mounted Infantry.

http://www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-2420

Sulphur Branch Trestle, Ala.,
Sept. 25, 1864.

Detachments of 111th U. S. Colored Infantry, 9th Indiana and
3d Tennessee Cavalry.

During Forrest's raid into Alabama and Tennessee he approached
the bridge over Sulphur branch on the morning of the 25th. The
garrison there had been reinforced, and on the appearance of
the enemy it was all called into the blockhouse. After
several hours of desperate resistance the Federals were
overpowered and compelled to surrender to a greatly superior
number.

While the casualties for the whole Union command were not
definitely reported they amounted in the detachments of the
111th U. S. Colored infantry and 9th Ind. cavalry to 47 killed,
6 wounded and 379 captured.

No Confederate losses were reported.


Source: The Union Army, Vol. 6, p. 860
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Third Cavalry
TENNESSEE
(3-YEARS)
Third Cavalry. -- Col., William C. Pickens; Lieut.-Cols., Duff
G. Thornburgh, John B. Minnis; Majs., Albert C. Catlett,
Benjamin Cunningham, Samuel W. Pickens.

The organization of this regiment was. commenced at Cumberland
gap, by Maj. William C. Pickens of Sevier County, acting under
authority from Gov. Johnson. The first recruits were received
Aug. 10, 1862, and at the evacuation of that post by Gen.
Morgan, only one company had been completed.

This company shared in the retreat to Ohio and thence went to
Louisville, where it was joined by the recruits of Cos. B, C,
D and E. These companies were ordered to Nashville as guards
for government stores and arrived Dec. 24, 1862, when they
were temporarily attached to Gen. Spear's brigade.

They were then ordered to the front and participated in the
battle of Stone's River. On Jan. 27, 1863, the five companies
were mustered into service at Murfreesboro, and the remainder
of that year was spent in scouting and skirmishing with the
enemy through various parts of Middle Tennessee. During that
time four more companies were recruited and mustered into
service.

About Dec. 25, 1863, the regiment under the command of Lieut.-
Col. Thornburgh was attached to a brigade of cavalry under
Col. Ray of the 2nd Tenn. cavalry and marched upon the
expedition into Mississippi, participating in all the
engagements of that campaign.

While at Collierville, Tenn., in Feb., 1864, Lieut.-Col.
Thornburgh turned over the command of the regiment to Maj.
Minnis, and soon afterward tendered his resignation, which was
reluctantly accepted. The regiment returned to Nashville in
March and remained there until April 10.

From; that time until September, as a whole or in detachments,
it was engaged in scouting or skirmishing. On Sept. 25, 1864,
the entire regiment with the exception of 15 officers and some
200 men, was captured at Athens and Sulphur branch trestle, by
the Confederates under Gen. Forrest. The captured officers
were exchanged Dec. 15 and the privates were exchanged at
Jackson, Miss.

On April 27, 1865, the steamer Sultana, having them; with a
large number of other troops on board, blew up near Memphis,
killing instantly 174 members of the regiment and mortally
wounding a number of others. The remainder of the regiment
was mustered out

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4, p. 383

*************************************************************************************

Report of Maj. John B. Minnis, Third Tennessee
Cavalry, of operations February 10-26.

HDQRS. THIRD TENNESSEE CAVALRY,
Germantown, Tenn., February 27, 1864.
SIR: I have the honor to submit the following report of the part taken
by the Third Tennessee Cavalry in the recent expedition under Gen.
W. Sooy Smith into Mississippi:

Leaving Collierville, Tenn., on the 10th instant with the brigade, this
regiment accompanied it during the entire march, performing its part of
the picket duty, scouting, &c., until proceeding as far as West Point,
and returning to within 3 miles of Okolona, where the brigade encamped
on the night of the 21st instant.

On the morning of the 22d, I was ordered to follow the Fourth
Tennessee Cavalry, the Second Tennessee Cavalry bringing up the rear
of the brigade. For 3 miles before reaching Okolona, the Second
Tennessee Cavalry skirmished with the enemy. At Okolona you offered
battle.

In accordance with your orders, this regiment was formed on the left
flank. The enemy were maneuvering in front of us, and the men coolly
awaited their advance. Immediately I received orders from you to
withdraw my men in column of fours, move forward, and keep well
closed up. In obeying this order, and while moving rapidly to close up,
for the advance regiments were moving very fast, the rear of my
regiment was fired into by the enemy, and heavy firing was heard to the
left of my rear, and simultaneously the enemy passed each flank and
commenced firing into the advance regiments. At the same time the
Second Tennessee and Fourth U. S. Cavalry, with much confusion,
pressed upon my rear, and many passed through my column.

Receiving orders from you a second time to move forward, I was
assigned by you to position on the right of the road, which was held
until I received orders from you to fall back in column, as a heavy force
of the enemy was moving to cut me off from the main column.

In withdrawing my men this time, by force of circumstances they
became more of less mixed with those from other regiments. I however
continued to keep a goodly number of them together, and alternately
fought and fell back until I received orders from you to
pass through the Second Brigade and rally my men, which being
accomplished I was placed, by order of Gen. Smith, on the right
flank, and repulsed the advancing enemy on said flank just previous to
the repulse of the enemy in the [front] and on the left flank. No
engagement took place after this in which this regiment was engaged
worthy of notice.

The loss sustained by this regiment in killed, wounded, and missing was
5, viz, 2 wounded and 3 missing.

I trust you will consider the inexperience of the major commanding and
the men under him in the field, and give justice to all.

I am, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

JOHN B. MINNIS,
Maj., Cmdg.

Lieut. R. W. PIKE,
Acting Assistant Adjutant-Gen.

Source: Official Records
PAGE 313-57 KY., SW. VA., TENN., MISS., ALA., AND N. GA. [CHAP. XLIV.
[Series I. Vol. 32. Part I, Reports. Serial No. 57.]
 
Thanks for the reply. I have seen the date for their capture on the 25th of September in several articles also but on my GGGrandfather's pension papers it list him as being captured on the 24th of September. I would guess it is a miss print on his pension papers?
 
Thanks for the reply. I have seen the date for their capture on the 25th of September in several articles also but on my GGGrandfather's pension papers it list him as being captured on the 24th of September. I would guess it is a miss print on his pension papers?

Maybe he was captured while on picket ? Here's a photo of the Union 2nd Tn Cavalry drilling. Thought you might like to see. Someone posted this some time ago. Clicking on the photo brings you in real close.
http://southernunionists.com/2013/10/18/hand-colored-tintype-of-co-d-2nd-tennessee-cavalry-regiment/
 
I discovered this site of database for Prisoners. I searched for "John Miller" in Cahaba Prison and found two listed in 3 Tenn Cavalry.
One in Company C died on the Sultana.
One in Company E survived the Sultana explosion. Is this your ancestor? His date of capture is a match.

http://www.civilwarprisoners.com/searchresults.php?fname=john&lname=miller&regiment=&database=cahaba

I couldn't find John W. Miller on Fold3. There are two John F.----maybe same person and a John F. and a John. One of the John Miller is said to have died on the Sultana.
But it is the records of John F. Miller of Company C who was captured on Sept 9. 1864 at Sulfur Tressel, AL.

See this record


. MillerJohnF--pg12.jpg
 
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Oh. Here he is under "John Miller", Company C.

First card says he enlisted at age 28 at Williamsburg TN in Dec 1862.
Another card said he was made Corporal in Jan 1863 & in Convalescent Camp in Murphreesboro.


MillerJohn-CoE-Page 17.jpg
back of card

MillerJohn-CoE-Page 18.jpg
 
I discovered this site of database for Prisoners. I searched for "John Miller" in Cahaba Prison and found two listed in 3 Tenn Cavalry.
One in Company C died on the Sultana.
One in Company E survived the Sultana explosion. Is this your ancestor? His date of capture is a match.

http://www.civilwarprisoners.com/searchresults.php?fname=john&lname=miller&regiment=&database=cahaba

I couldn't find John W. Miller on Fold3. There are two John F.----maybe same person and a John F. and a John. One of the John Miller is said to have died on the Sultana.
But it is the records of John F. Miller of Company C who was captured on Sept 9. 1864 at Sulfur Tressel, AL.

See this record


.View attachment 45280


My GGGrandfather was John W. Miller 3rd Tennessee Cavalry Co. E. He survived the Sultana explosion and was mustered out of the Army on June 10, 1865. I have his pension papers. I wasn't trying to identify him I was just looking for other relatives of soldiers of the 3rd Tennessee Cavalry.
 
I thought so, but I was trying to find out which 3rd Tennessee and which Miller---then I saw that two of them may have been on the Sultana.
I don't have much on this Union cavalry regiment. Trying to recall if Forrest and maybe his old 3 Tennessee Cavalry every met the Union 3rd Tennessee in battle.
 
I thought so, but I was trying to find out which 3rd Tennessee and which Miller---then I saw that two of them may have been on the Sultana.
I don't have much on this Union cavalry regiment. Trying to recall if Forrest and maybe his old 3 Tennessee Cavalry every met the Union 3rd Tennessee in battle.[/Q]


It would appear that it was Forrest's troops that captured my GGGrandfather and most of the Union's 3rd Tennessee Cavalry in Athens, AL.

In September 1864, General Nathan Bedford Forrest led his force into northern Alabama and middle Tennessee to disrupt the supply of William Tecumseh Sherman's army in Georgia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sulphur_Creek_Trestle
 
Maybe he was captured while on picket ? Here's a photo of the Union 2nd Tn Cavalry drilling. Thought you might like to see. Someone posted this some time ago. Clicking on the photo brings you in real close.
http://southernunionists.com/2013/10/18/hand-colored-tintype-of-co-d-2nd-tennessee-cavalry-regiment/

That is an awesome pic. Got a question about some of the guns so I'm gonna post in another section as well. There appear to be a few revolving rifles/carbines in the pic. Any idea as to the make? Don't thinks it a Remington '58 as I believe those only came with 18" barrels and didn't have fluted cylinders. Colt's had a variety of calibers and barrel lengths, but there's something that makes me wonder. Did any other gun companies make revolving rifles?
 
That is an awesome pic. Got a question about some of the guns so I'm gonna post in another section as well. There appear to be a few revolving rifles/carbines in the pic. Any idea as to the make? Don't thinks it a Remington '58 as I believe those only came with 18" barrels and didn't have fluted cylinders. Colt's had a variety of calibers and barrel lengths, but there's something that makes me wonder. Did any other gun companies make revolving rifles?

Don't really know that much about weapons. I'm sure someone will be along shortly that does.
 
Had 4 GG Uncles in the 3rd. One died in Cahaba, another died when the Steamship Sultana exploded. The other two survived the explosion and made it back to Maryville, Tn.
 
My maternal Great Grandpa (yes, 1xGGPa) was also captured at Athens. He served in the 102nd Regiment, Ohio Infantry and the bulk of his regiment surrendered to Forest. He was imprisoned at Cahaba for about nine months until the end of the War. After the regiment was released he also survived the Sultana disaster.
 
My maternal gggreandfather was killed at sulphur trestle. His name was Thomas Lowery thornburgh. He was the nephew of Duff Thornburgh. My grandfathers mother was only a baby when he was killed and no one really had any information. If anyone knows of any specific mention of him in battle please let me know where to find it. I think I may have found his grave but it is marked unknown. He was with the 3rd Tennessee.
 
My maternal gggreandfather was killed at sulphur trestle. His name was Thomas Lowery thornburgh. He was the nephew of Duff Thornburgh. My grandfathers mother was only a baby when he was killed and no one really had any information. If anyone knows of any specific mention of him in battle please let me know where to find it. I think I may have found his grave but it is marked unknown. He was with the 3rd Tennessee.
Welcome! I don't have any specific knowledge on him, but please consider posting a thread about him in this forum. It will be seen by more folks this way, and someone might have some information for you.
 
Any members here have a relative in the Union Army's 3rd Tennessee Cavalry? My GGGrandfather John W. Miller was a private in Company E and was captured in Athens, AL on September 24, 1864 and sent to Cahaba Prison where he remained until the end of the war.
W. B. Isham

W. B. Isham Held as a POW Captured February 16th, 1862 Camp Butler, Illinois – Confederate Prisoners of War, 1861-1865. He enlisted as a Private in Company G, 3rd Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry (Forrest's) on February 11th, 1862. The Tennessee 3rd (Forrest's Old) Cavalry Regiment was organized at Memphis, Tennessee, in October, 1861, as an eight-company battalion. In January, 1862, it was increased to regimental size. The history of this unit is very complex because over twenty companies from Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas, Mississippi, and Louisiana were attached to it at one time or another. After the Battle of Shiloh, four companies were transferred to the 4th (Russell's) Alabama Cavalry Regiment and thereafter it was called 18th or 26th Battalion, Balch's Battalion, and McDonald's Battalion. It fought at Fort Donelson and Shiloh, and during April, 1862, contained 463 effectives. The unit was attached to Forrest's, F.C. Armstrong's, and E.W. Rucker's Brigade, and served in the Army of Tennessee and the Department of Alabama, Mississippi, and East Louisiana. It confronted the Federals in Tennessee, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Alabama, and surrendered in May, 1865.
 

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