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I have been researching a relative of mine who fought for the confederacy but found two persons with the same name. My relative, Maston Whaley, was most likely born in Washington County, Missouri around 1827. He lived there all his life I believe. One man with the same name fought in the 10th Missouri Infantry Regiment, the other in the 1 and 3rd Missouri Consolidated Cavalry. Here is information on both:

Maston Whaley (Co. B 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry)
-Private
-Unknown Enlistment Date
-Captured at Fort Blakeley on April 9th 1865
-Age 39 (Born c. 1826)
-Residence in Washington County, Missouri
-Paroled 13th May 1865

Maston (Spelled "Masterson" on some documents) Whaley (Co. E 10th Missouri Infantry)
-Private
-Enlisted on August 8th 1862 in Thomasville, Missouri
-Captured at the Battle of Helena, July 4th 1863
-Arrived at Military Prison, Alton, Illinois
-Transferred to Camp Douglas on August 24th 1864
-Transferred to Point Lookout February 13th 1865
-Unknown age
-Unknown residence

I am quite confident the man in the 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry is my relative. It is confusing, however, how he would have signed up in that regiment after the consolidation and I did not see any records of him being captured at Vicksburg. Perhaps they are the same man and the soldier in the tenth was exchanged? That seems unlikely though because of how late it was in the war and the fact there is note on his records that says, "objects to being exchanged". Any further information would be appreciated to clear up discrepancies.
 
Given the different sequence/course of events shown under each name above, it appears likely these are two separate individuals (with the same name of 'Maston Whaley').
 
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Washington Co. MO is about 50-60 miles Southwest of St. Louis; MO. Thomasville Mo. is in South Central Mo about 50 miles north of the Arkansas state line. That's a pretty big spread in distance, especially in the 1860's. So, given the probabilities that your ancestor lived in Washington County for his entire life, I would say that he also fought with the 1st/3rd Cavalry regiment. Ther enlisted date for this man is unknown, and given that the 1st Cav. Regiment was formed in December 1861 with the majority of its men from the 4th and 5th division of the former Mo. State Guard, (central and western counties of MO.), your ancestor, being from Washington County on the eastern side of the state, likely was enrolled in the 3rd Cavalry Battalion. The 1st Cav. Reg. was mustered into Confederate service in Jan. of 1862. The 1st Cav Regiment & 3rd Cav Battalion were consolidated after the prisoner exchange from Vicksburg took place. While first recruited as cavalry units, they were quickly dismounted in 1862. The consolidated unit took part in the Atlanta campaign and at Franklin, the unit, fighting as part of the 1st Mo. Brigade, lost about 60% of their men as the fought around the Carter cotton gin. Their last major campaign was in the defense of Mobile, Al. at Fort Blakeley. I don't have any information of the 3rd Battalion prior to its' consolidation.

In August of 1862, Emmett McDonald was authorized to form a regiment of Cavalry in Missouri. By November of the same year, McDonald was unable to recruit enough men to form a regiment, as they only had 5 companies, so they were organized as a battalion, yet they were often referred to as McDonald's Mo. Cavalry Regiment. They mainly operated in Northern Arkansas and participated in raids into Missouri. During the first half of 1863, the battalion added 3 more regiments but also suffered the loss of McDonald. Lt. Col. Young took over command. At this time, the battalion was officially designated the 11th Battalion, bur was normally called "Youngs Battalion." On the 4th of July 1863 the battalion fought as part of Marmaduke's brigade at Helena, Arkansas where the battalion had "minimal losses." It wasn't until December of 1863 when the battalion's 8 companies consolidated with 2 companies of Lawther's Cavalry to form the 10th Cavalry Regiment.
 
Agree. Cannot establish any nexus between Washington County and either of the two alternative units suggested.
 
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Hear me out, now: I think it IS the same person. My reasoning is based solely off of this letter from Missouri Brigade commander Francis M. Cockrell to department commander Richard Taylor:
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For reference, here are the orders that Cockrell refers to:
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My opinion, therefore, is that after his parole, whether he liked it or not, Whaley was sent by Bevier down to join Cockrell's brigade in Alabama. After being assigned to the 1st/3rd Missouri Cavalry, he was captured at Blakely less than two months later.
 
As I said above, thought the two names proffered might represent different persons.

It appears that the 1st MO Cavalry and the 3rd Batt. (Samuels) MO Cavalry both surrendered at Vicksburg on Jul. 4, '63, and the name of 'Maston Whaley' did not show up on the parole lists. (See https://www.nps.gov/vick/learn/historyculture/confederate-parole-records-w.htm ). But surrendered Confederate soldiers were sent east of Vicksburg to parole camps to wait for exchange in Aug./Sep. '63. Southern units were subsequently reorganized and both these units were merged into the 1st/3rd MO Cavalry in Nov. '63 and joined the AoT. Saw no opportunity for him to join this newly reconstituted unit from Washington County, MO, following the exchange, given the movements of the AoT in this subsequent period. (See https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=CMO0001RC01 & https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=CMO0001RC01 ).

Of the two possibilities offered in the OP, thought he was more likely to have joined the 10th MO Infantry at Thomasville, in Oregon County, MO, on Aug. 8, '62 (even realizing that's about 125 miles away from Washington County). If that was the case, then it seems from the bits of information provided, he may have been one of the 237 men of this unit captured at Helena on Jul. 4, '63, and thereafter served out the remainder of the war in various Northern prison camps.

But am not confident with this finding, given so much missing information.
 
Washington Co. MO is about 50-60 miles Southwest of St. Louis; MO. Thomasville Mo. is in South Central Mo about 50 miles north of the Arkansas state line. That's a pretty big spread in distance, especially in the 1860's. So, given the probabilities that your ancestor lived in Washington County for his entire life, I would say that he also fought with the 1st/3rd Cavalry regiment.
I did look up the distance between Thomasville and Washington County, it was indeed a suspiciously long distance. I thought perhaps it might have been the nearest confederate recruiting station, but I am not sure. It still is perplexing how there seems to be no evidence of him in 1st and 3rd before the consolidation. I do believe he did serve in the 1st/3rd but how he was able to enter into that regiment is confusing.
 
As I said above, thought the two names proffered might represent different persons.

It appears that the 1st MO Cavalry and the 3rd Batt. (Samuels) MO Cavalry both surrendered at Vicksburg on Jul. 4, '63, and the name of 'Maston Whaley' did not show up on the parole lists. (See https://www.nps.gov/vick/learn/historyculture/confederate-parole-records-w.htm ). But surrendered Confederate soldiers were sent east of Vicksburg to parole camps to wait for exchange in Aug./Sep. '63. Southern units were subsequently reorganized and both these units were merged into the 1st/3rd MO Cavalry in Nov. '63 and joined the AoT. Saw no opportunity for him to join this newly reconstituted unit from Washington County, MO, following the exchange, given the movements of the AoT in this subsequent period. (See https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=CMO0001RC01 & https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=CMO0001RC01 ).
I wonder since the enlistment date in the 1st/3rd was listed as "not dated" if that was done to all the men who were there when the consolidated unit was formed. This still would raise the question of why he would not be listed in the Vicksburg paroles, for I believe that if he was there when the unit was formed it would most likely mean he served in the previous formations.
 
Hear me out, now: I think it IS the same person. My reasoning is based solely off of this letter from Missouri Brigade commander Francis M. Cockrell to department commander Richard Taylor:
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For reference, here are the orders that Cockrell refers to:
View attachment 577766

My opinion, therefore, is that after his parole, whether he liked it or not, Whaley was sent by Bevier down to join Cockrell's brigade in Alabama. After being assigned to the 1st/3rd Missouri Cavalry, he was captured at Blakely less than two months later.
I did look up the distance between Thomasville and Washington County, it was indeed a suspiciously long distance. I thought perhaps it might have been the nearest confederate recruiting station, but I am not sure. It still is perplexing how there seems to be no evidence of him in 1st and 3rd before the consolidation. I do believe he did serve in the 1st/3rd but how he was able to enter into that regiment is confusing.
I wonder since the enlistment date in the 1st/3rd was listed as "not dated" if that was done to all the men who were there when the consolidated unit was formed. This still would raise the question of why he would not be listed in the Vicksburg paroles, for I believe that if he was there when the unit was formed it would most likely mean he served in the previous formations.
Please see my post above -- this would indicate that he was placed in the 1st/3rd in March 1865, therefore removing the Vicksburg correlation entirely. This was not an uncommon occurrence -- the same orders were given for Arkansans to all go to D. H. Reynolds' brigade.
 
I have been researching a relative of mine who fought for the confederacy but found two persons with the same name. My relative, Maston Whaley, was most likely born in Washington County, Missouri around 1827. He lived there all his life I believe. One man with the same name fought in the 10th Missouri Infantry Regiment, the other in the 1 and 3rd Missouri Consolidated Cavalry. Here is information on both:

Maston Whaley (Co. B 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry)
-Private
-Unknown Enlistment Date
-Captured at Fort Blakeley on April 9th 1865
-Age 39 (Born c. 1826)
-Residence in Washington County, Missouri
-Paroled 13th May 1865

Maston (Spelled "Masterson" on some documents) Whaley (Co. E 10th Missouri Infantry)
-Private
-Enlisted on August 8th 1862 in Thomasville, Missouri
-Captured at the Battle of Helena, July 4th 1863
-Arrived at Military Prison, Alton, Illinois
-Transferred to Camp Douglas on August 24th 1864
-Transferred to Point Lookout February 13th 1865
-Unknown age
-Unknown residence

I am quite confident the man in the 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry is my relative. It is confusing, however, how he would have signed up in that regiment after the consolidation and I did not see any records of him being captured at Vicksburg. Perhaps they are the same man and the soldier in the tenth was exchanged? That seems unlikely though because of how late it was in the war and the fact there is note on his records that says, "objects to being exchanged". Any further information would be appreciated to clear up discrepancies.

I also vote for same man. Captured serving with the 10th Missouri in July 1863 and sent to POW camps in the North. The objection to being exchanged in 1865 would not have been heeded unless he was allowed to take the oath of allegiance to the USA as a "Confederate deserter" and left the prison. Short of that, he was subject to exchange. There were cases where Confederate prisoners applied to take the oath, but for some reason were declined the privilege. Here's an example, applied to take the oath, but was instead sent back to the Confederacy, and ultimately surrendered and paroled at the close of the war...


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Anyways, the Confederate prisoners from the west, Camp Douglas, were indeed sent to Point Lookout for exchange in early 1865:

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The 10th Missouri was then serving at Shreveport, Louisiana, where it would remain to near the close of the war.

Mr. Whaley was apparently not present with that regiment at the time of surrender.



Instead, he is shown captured at Fort Blakely, April 9, 1865, and recorded with the 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry. Near the close of the war, it was not odd for Confederate soldiers to join units other than those upon which they were mustered. General orders of the Confederate Army had allowed any Confederate foot-soldier who could furnish himself with a suitable mount to be transferred to the cavalry service. [General Order #67, 5-25-1863.]
In the west, many Confederate infantry soldiers didn't bother about official paperwork, but just fell into the cavalry service...

1774802711168.webp


That said, the 1st and 3rd Cavalry (consolidated) was in fact long already serving as front-line infantry. So it appears more likely, that Mr. Whaley was simply transferred into the 1st & 3rd upon his return to the west by exchange. The regiment, already much reduced number, suffered 60 percent casualties at the Battle of Franklin (Nov. 30, 1864), and participated in the dreadful retreat out of Tennessee and to Tupelo, and then on to Mobile. Missouri Brigade chronicler Ephraim M. Anderson explains that the skeleton command was recruited about Mobile, including a number of exchanged prisoners... and even then, by the Battle of Fort Blakely, the 1st & 3rd regiments consolidated, with their recruits etc. could only physically organize a couple companies (out of 20 represented by the two consolidated regiments!). Ergo if Whaley was an able-bodied Missouri soldier, he was needed to refill the ranks of the skeleton command;

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From p. 399 (and account of the battle of Fort Blakely following)...

As to why the Confederate Army would particularly transfer Whaley of the 10th to the skeletonized 1/3rd Cavalry, it was notable at the time that the 10th was employed in the rear. Where the 1/3rd was still a fighting outfit. And it was noted that the exchanged Confederate prisoners, after their time in the prison camps, were often found in able-bodied condition and so sent right back to the front lines...

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So we next find, from US Prisoner of War records, Whaley as a private of Co. B, 1/3rd MO Cavalry when captured at Fort Blakely, and Recorded as a resident of Washington County, Missouri...

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As a P.O.W. again, he arrived at Ship Island on the Gulf on April 15. He was then sent to Vicksburg, Mississippi on May 1, 1865.

The Prisoners at Ship Island were all sent to Vicksburg and exchanged in early May...

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This was, in fact, just in time for most of them to then be included in the surrender of the Confederate Armies, and, once again as prisoners of war, to receive paroles and allowed to disperse homeward.

His name was shortly after given on the roll of the 1/3rd MO Cav, upon surrender at Citronelle, Alabama in May 13, 1865. He was once again a prisoner of war, but with a parole. The Confederacy, of course, was already crushed out of existence.

However, a last US Military record shows he was among the Confederate prisoners of war classed as "deserters from the Confederate army" and "administered in lieu of the amnesty," at Memphis, Tennessee on June 3, 1865:

1774804044832.webp


To explain. It might be noted that to the US Army in 1865 a "rebel deserter" was specifically a Confederate soldier who took the oath of allegiance to the United States, and ceased to be a belligerent combatant thereby in the eyes of the USA:

1774803164142.webp


On May 8, 1865, General Grant ordered that the paroled Confederate soldiers of the surrendered Confederate armies, who desired to return to homes in States outside of those lately in rebellion (like Missouri) could not do so unless they took the oath of allegiance to the United States (that proclaimed Dec. 8, 1863) in order to receive the Presidential amnesty proclaimed most recently in March, 1864. Grant:

1774803923683.webp


This is a reference to the amnesty proffered by President Lincoln from March 26, 1864, which was offered only to Confederate soldiers who were at large and not in US military custody, but who surrendered themselves for the purpose of taking the oath for the amnesty...

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Such men were given at times as "administered in lieu of the amnesty" (as in taking the oath), or as having "surrendered" their paroles per the S.O. of May 8, 1865 (in order to take the oath and receive the amnesty):

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Anyways, Whaley, after taking the oath at Memphis in June, was free to travel home into Missouri.
 
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Please see my post above -- this would indicate that he was placed in the 1st/3rd in March 1865, therefore removing the Vicksburg correlation entirely. This was not an uncommon occurrence -- the same orders were given for Arkansans to all go to D. H. Reynolds' brigade.
Yes, I was speaking in regards to the theory that these were two different people, not to bypass your research.
 
I also vote for same man. Captured serving with the 10th Missouri in July 1863 and sent to POW camps in the North. The objection to being exchanged in 1865 would not have been heeded unless he was allowed to take the oath of allegiance to the USA as a "Confederate deserter" and left the prison. Short of that, he was subject to exchange. There were cases where Confederate prisoners applied to take the oath, but for some reason were declined the privilege. Here's an example, applied to take the oath, but was instead sent back to the Confederacy, and ultimately surrendered and paroled at the close of the war...


View attachment 577782


Anyways, the Confederate prisoners from the west, Camp Douglas, were indeed sent to Point Lookout for exchange in early 1865:

View attachment 577761

The 10th Missouri was then serving at Shreveport, Louisiana, where it would remain to near the close of the war.

Mr. Whaley was apparently not present with that regiment at the time of surrender.



Instead, he is shown captured at Fort Blakely, April 9, 1865, and recorded with the 1/3rd Missouri Cavalry. Near the close of the war, it was not odd for Confederate soldiers to join units other than those upon which they were mustered. General orders of the Confederate Army had allowed any Confederate foot-soldier who could furnish himself with a suitable mount to be transferred to the cavalry service. [General Order #67, 5-25-1863.]
In the west, many Confederate infantry soldiers didn't bother about official paperwork, but just fell into the cavalry service...

View attachment 577775

That said, the 1st and 3rd Cavalry (consolidated) was in fact long already serving as front-line infantry. So it appears more likely, that Mr. Whaley was simply transferred into the 1st & 3rd upon his return to the west by exchange. The regiment, already much reduced number, suffered 60 percent casualties at the Battle of Franklin (Nov. 30, 1864), and participated in the dreadful retreat out of Tennessee and to Tupelo, and then on to Mobile. Missouri Brigade chronicler Ephraim M. Anderson explains that the skeleton command was recruited about Mobile, including a number of exchanged prisoners... and even then, by the Battle of Fort Blakely, the 1st & 3rd regiments consolidated, with their recruits etc. could only physically organize a couple companies (out of 20 represented by the two consolidated regiments!). Ergo if Whaley was an able-bodied Missouri soldier, he was needed to refill the ranks of the skeleton command;

View attachment 577783
From p. 399 (and account of the battle of Fort Blakely following)...

As to why the Confederate Army would particularly transfer Whaley of the 10th to the skeletonized 1/3rd Cavalry, it was notable at the time that the 10th was employed in the rear. Where the 1/3rd was still a fighting outfit. And it was noted that the exchanged Confederate prisoners, after their time in the prison camps, were often found in able-bodied condition and so sent right back to the front lines...

View attachment 577791



So we next find, from US Prisoner of War records, Whaley as a private of Co. B, 1/3rd MO Cavalry when captured at Fort Blakely, and Recorded as a resident of Washington County, Missouri...

View attachment 577760

As a P.O.W. again, he arrived at Ship Island on the Gulf on April 15. He was then sent to Vicksburg, Mississippi on May 1, 1865.

The Prisoners at Ship Island were all sent to Vicksburg and exchanged in early May...

View attachment 577762

This was, in fact, just in time for most of them to then be included in the surrender of the Confederate Armies, and, once again as prisoners of war, to receive paroles and allowed to disperse homeward.

His name was shortly after given on the roll of the 1/3rd MO Cav, upon surrender at Citronelle, Alabama in May 13, 1865. He was once again a prisoner of war, but with a parole. The Confederacy, of course, was already crushed out of existence.

However, a last US Military record shows he was among the Confederate prisoners of war classed as "deserters from the Confederate army" and "administered in lieu of the amnesty," at Memphis, Tennessee on June 3, 1865:

View attachment 577778

To explain. It might be noted that to the US Army in 1865 a "rebel deserter" was specifically a Confederate soldier who took the oath of allegiance to the United States, and ceased to be a belligerent combatant thereby in the eyes of the USA:

View attachment 577776

On May 8, 1865, General Grant ordered that the paroled Confederate soldiers of the surrendered Confederate armies, who desired to return to homes in States outside of those lately in rebellion (like Missouri) could not do so unless they took the oath of allegiance to the United States (that proclaimed Dec. 8, 1863) in order to receive the Presidential amnesty proclaimed most recently in March, 1864. Grant:

View attachment 577777

This is a reference to the amnesty proffered by President Lincoln from March 26, 1864, which was offered only to Confederate soldiers who were at large and not in US military custody, but who surrendered themselves for the purpose of taking the oath for the amnesty...

View attachment 577781

Such men were given at times as "administered in lieu of the amnesty" (as in taking the oath), or as having "surrendered" their paroles per the S.O. of May 8, 1865 (in order to take the oath and receive the amnesty):

View attachment 577780


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Anyways, Whaley, after taking the oath at Memphis in June, was free to travel home into Missouri.
Great research! Quite an unorthodox experience in the war.
 
I wonder since the enlistment date in the 1st/3rd was listed as "not dated" if that was done to all the men who were there when the consolidated unit was formed. This still would raise the question of why he would not be listed in the Vicksburg paroles, for I believe that if he was there when the unit was formed it would most likely mean he served in the previous formations.
Agree with all of that - thought it raises the possibility that he was not with either of these units consolidated.
 
Just some random thoughts on the subject.

1st Mo Cav. Regiment was largely formed from men from central and western Mo counties. My information from various Mo units comes from James McGhee's book, "Guide to Missouri Confederate Units, 1861-1865." McGhee makes no mention of the 3rd Mo Cav. Battalion prior to their consolidation with the 1st Mo Cav., therefore, I'm guessing the man in question was originally a member of the 3rd Battalion, and the paperwork (if any ever existed), was lost. This would be especially true if he had first joined a MO State Guard unit that morphed into the 3rd Battalion. The records of MSG units are practically non-existent.

10th Mo. Infantry--and here I must apologize for my previous post regarding the 10th. The O.P. clearly indicated it was and infantry unit, but the information I gave was on the 10th Mo. cavalry. Blame my mistake on an old man not paying attention, and again, I apologize for the error I made and the confusion it may have caused.

The 10th Mo. Infantry was formed at Camp Mulberry, east of Fort Smith, Ark. in early Nov. 1862. The majority of the regiment was made up from a battalion of dismounted calvary commanded by William O. Coleman and some mounted recruits under the command of John M. Johnson. The unit was brought up to full strength when two companies of former Mo. State Guards joined the command. After the regiment was formed, they numbered around 650 men armed with various weapons, and many had prior military experience with the 2nd, 5th, and 6th division of the MSG, and now under the command of former MSG Gen. (now CSA Colonel) Alexander E. Steen. By early December, the unit took part in the Prairie Grove campaign where the unit lost its' Colonel, Lt. Colonel and 31 men in the battle. In May of 1863 Gen. Price designated the unit the 10th Infantry Regiment in Special Order #30. In June of the year, the unit took part in the battle of Helena, Ark where it took a tremendous loss of 11 killed, 41 wounded and 237 captured when it was nearly surrounded.

Given that the 10th Mo Infantry was made from a conglomerate of different MSG and other units, the recruitment of men was from all areas of the State of Missouri. The person of interest in this unit was sworn into Confederate service in Aug of 1862, prior to the formation of the regiment. Once the regiment was formed, he was in Company B. Many of the men in this company were from the counties of Clark, Clay, Franklin, Knox, Pettis, Platte, Scotland and St. Louis. Franklin County is the county to the north of Washington county. Perhaps the person of interest lived in the northern part of Washington County and simply crossed the county line to join. Also, the CSA sent recruiting officers into the state and when they gathered enough men, they headed south with their recruits to rejoin their unit and to swear the men into service. This would explain why a man from Washington County was sworn into service in southern MO.
 
He did have a son born in April of 1863 which would line up with him joining the service in August of 1862.
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This is the first muster roll, and it seems he was enlisted by Captain John M. Johnson.
 
Given that the 10th Mo Infantry was made from a conglomerate of different MSG and other units, the recruitment of men was from all areas of the State of Missouri. The person of interest in this unit was sworn into Confederate service in Aug of 1862, prior to the formation of the regiment. Once the regiment was formed, he was in Company B. Many of the men in this company were from the counties of Clark, Clay, Franklin, Knox, Pettis, Platte, Scotland and St. Louis. Franklin County is the county to the north of Washington county. Perhaps the person of interest lived in the northern part of Washington County and simply crossed the county line to join. Also, the CSA sent recruiting officers into the state and when they gathered enough men, they headed south with their recruits to rejoin their unit and to swear the men into service. This would explain why a man from Washington County was sworn into service in southern MO.
Agree. It appears the 10th MO Infantry (CSA) was recruited from counties all over Missouri. Apparently early enlistees were transferred from consolidated militia units and elements of the Missouri State Guard. So it seems feasible he could have easily crossed counties from Washington county where he hailed from (maybe following friends/associates/neighbors), to join originally.
 
The first muster roll---
Pvt. Whaley enrolled in company E of Alexander Early Steen's regiment of MO Infantry. Steen may have been a regular army officer until the war broke out, then he became a General in the MO State Guard and later, after the Guard became dissolved or absorbed into the Confederate Army, he became a Confederate Colonel in charge of the unit that later became the 10 Mo Inf, CSA. Steen was killed Dec. 7, 1862
Captain John M. Johnson did command company E of the 10th initially but later went on detached duty for recruiting until Sept. 2 1863 when he resigned due to a disability.
 

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