1863 Sharps ID?

[Sergt R]

Hello all,
looking for info on this 1863 Sharps SN C, 18339. any help is appreciated. Also what books cover the sharps serial numbers?

thank you in advance

 

[plymouthairrifle]

Your Sharps is not listed in the SRS database.

 

[Sergt R]

Thank you, what is the SRS database exactly very new to the so if it's already been posted or talked about before excuse me it's a bunny hole of going through threads

 

[Salterr]

Your Sharps is not listed in the SRS database.

How can a person gain access to the SRS? Do you pay or is it searchable for free?

 

[UCVRelics]

Also what books cover the sharps serial numbers

We would love to see the rest of your Sharps. Any cartouches on the stock?

How can a person gain access to the SRS?

You can buy the books if you can find them and they are expensive. There are some thumb drives out there with all the info but they are incomplete and are bootlegs.

 

[Salterr]

We would love to see the rest of your Sharps. Any cartouches on the stock?
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You can buy the books if you can find them and they are expensive. There are some thumb drives out there with all the info but they are incomplete and are bootlegs.

You weren't kidding, $700 for 1 of multiple volumes!

 

[Sergt R]

I haven't purchased it yet. On the fence about it

The cost is 2k. It looks like it just came from a museum. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this carbine. I've gone through it. It almost looks too good to be true and I don't think they know what they have because they listed it as an 1852.

 

[bayonet]

The C was added when the serial #s hit 100,000 so it is 118339

 

[Sergt R]

Correct and appreciate it Bayonet., from my understanding the serial numbers for the "New Model 1863" started in the 71,000 range so it would realistically be a low serial number 51,000 ish

 

[UCVRelics]

Correct and appreciate it Bayonet., from my understanding the serial numbers for the "New Model 1863" started in the 71,000 range so it would realistically be a low serial number 51,000 ish

Actually the New Model 1863 generally runs 65,000 to 140,000, some overlap with other models. There are 3 different versions of the 63. Does it have a patch box and saddle ring. The folks have it listed that way as they are looking at the patent info stamped on top. 2k is way high.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

These were rebuilt during their time of use and that affects value as does just how much wear there is on the different parts.
the one photo I see posted does not show a $2000 carbine

 

[johan_steele]

I'm going to agree that the single picture doesn't point to a $2k 1863 Sharps carbine. pictured below is an 1863 converted to .50-70 going for less from Dennis Fulmer.

To be brutally honest, unless I was supporting the museum, I'd pass and keep my eye out for a M1859 or spend some more for an M1863 or M1870 rifle. That said it might be worth giving them a lower price and see if they will take it.

As someone who works at a museum we do a lot of horse trading and our funds are tight… if they're selling to buy something else or to raise needed funds for building repairs they might bite.

Good luck and post some pics of whatever you opt to do. Ultimately, it's what makes you happy.

I had my heart set on a Spencer rifle for a couple years and circumstances kept kicking me in the teeth so that I missed several. Then the collecting gods grinned in my direction and I ended up with an early Spencer rifle that I'm quite happy to have on display in the museum.

 

[JackADriscoll]

For what it's worth to you the last few unremarkable 1863 sharps carbines have been between 900 and 2 grand that I've seen at auction. With some patience you can do better

I'm going to agree that the single picture doesn't point to a $2k 1863 Sharps carbine. pictured below is an 1863 converted to .50-70 going for less from Dennis Fulmer.

To be brutally honest, unless I was supporting the museum, I'd pass and keep my eye out for a M1859 or spend some more for an M1863 or M1870 rifle. That said it might be worth giving them a lower price and see if they will take it.

As someone who works at a museum we do a lot of horse trading and our funds are tight… if they're selling to buy something else or to raise needed funds for building repairs they might bite.

Good luck and post some pics of whatever you opt to do. Ultimately, it's what makes you happy.

I had my heart set on a Spencer rifle for a couple years and circumstances kept kicking me in the teeth so that I missed several. Then the collecting gods grinned in my direction and I ended up with an early Spencer rifle that I'm quite happy to have on display in the museum.



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[Jeff in Ohio]

Another important point is that there are many Sharps carbines available for you to purchase.
Sharps made more than a hundred thousand of them and I best half of them are still in existence!

 

[Sergt R]

These were rebuilt during their time of use and that affects value as does just how much wear there is on the different parts.
the one photo I see posted does not show a $2000 carbine

Correct and I only took the one photo as the entire weapon was pristine and all period but very interested in its history. good to know that is high price.

 

[Sergt R]

I'm going to agree that the single picture doesn't point to a $2k 1863 Sharps carbine. pictured below is an 1863 converted to .50-70 going for less from Dennis Fulmer.

To be brutally honest, unless I was supporting the museum, I'd pass and keep my eye out for a M1859 or spend some more for an M1863 or M1870 rifle. That said it might be worth giving them a lower price and see if they will take it.

As someone who works at a museum we do a lot of horse trading and our funds are tight… if they're selling to buy something else or to raise needed funds for building repairs they might bite.

Good luck and post some pics of whatever you opt to do. Ultimately, it's what makes you happy.

I had my heart set on a Spencer rifle for a couple years and circumstances kept kicking me in the teeth so that I missed several. Then the collecting gods grinned in my direction and I ended up with an early Spencer rifle that I'm quite happy to have on display in the museum.



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This just happen to fall on my lap and unsure to bite. the "Blue book I use" for its condition has it higher but understand what the book says and what moves are two different things......Exactly why I am asking folks these questions. appreciate all the information from everyone.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

Correct and I only took the one photo as the entire weapon was pristine and all period but very interested in its history. good to know that is high price.

Whatever "Pristine" means, your photo does not show a pristine item