Ammo 1 Pounder Solid Shot

[UCVRelics]

I got a 100lber I'll let go cheap.

 

[Story]

In the early days of trade on the Mississippi River (where Warren County/Vicksburg is located), it wasn't unusual for flatboats/riverboats plying the river to have small cannon (possibly military surplus) for protection against Native Americans or River Pirates; perhaps this ball came from one of these.

See also "Insurance Cannon"

This is a British 1 Pounder "Insurance Cannon" from the early 1800's. It is called an "Insurance Cannon" ( or Insurance Gun ) because the British Insurance Companies of that time required that all Vessels wanting to insure their cargos, must have a Cannon "at-the-ready" to ward off attacks and unwelcome boarding attempts by natives and pirates. These Insurance Cannons were generally smaller in size than the Military Cannons used on board British Navel Vessels. The 1 Pounder shown here was the smallest Cannon to meet the requirements of the Insurance Companies. This unique Cannon Barrel was recovered sometime during the late 19th century from a shipwreck found off the coast of England in the English Channel. It is one of only two known to exist.

1840 BRITISH INSURANCE GUN - SWIVEL CANNON - DECK CARRIAGE

1840 British Insurance Gun in Deck Carriage and Swivel Cannon Yoke Fabrication and Swivel Gun Plans.

www.buckstix.com

 

[Ethan S.]

I got a 100lber I'll let go cheap.
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That would be awesome, but I can only afford a ten pounder Parrot.

Because I'm young, and have no job yet, I make money by buying antique odds and ends for low, and selling them on ebay auctions, or on private forums. It's a good way to make money, but it is risky. The average price for a ten pounder Parrot is $200. I do not want to go above that line, and if I can, I'd like to avoid that line altogether, and find one for cheaper. That's one thing about me, I'm very frugal when it comes to adding to my collection.


However, next year I'll be old enough to go to conductor training for Norfolk Southern, and starting pay for a conductor is around 45,000 a year. That's good pay for a single guy, living in a small house.

 

[Ethan S.]

I got a 100lber I'll let go cheap.
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Just out of curiosity, how much do you want for it?

 

[Tom Hughes]

My guess would be iron grape shot based on the description.
Can you shoot over a photograph for us to look at for more accuracy? Thanks for sharing.

 

[Ethan S.]

My guess would be iron grape shot based on the description.
Can you shoot over a photograph for us to look at for more accuracy? Thanks for sharing.

There is a photo on the first page. CWT has been actng funny today. No photos are showing for me.

 

[UCVRelics]

Just out of curiosity, how much do you want for it?

Curiosty Killed the Cat. Do your research and make me an offer

 

[Ethan S.]

Curiosty Killed the Cat. Do your research and make me an offer

Yipes! Average price at $1,500 is a little bit over my budget(by over $1,200 over it) Got any 2 pounder parrots?

 

[Ethan S.]

If I kept up at my current ebay success, I might be able to buy it in two years. Or I could wait and get a job, lol!

 

[Carronade]

See also "Insurance Cannon"

This is a British 1 Pounder "Insurance Cannon" from the early 1800's. It is called an "Insurance Cannon" ( or Insurance Gun ) because the British Insurance Companies of that time required that all Vessels wanting to insure their cargos, must have a Cannon "at-the-ready" to ward off attacks and unwelcome boarding attempts by natives and pirates. These Insurance Cannons were generally smaller in size than the Military Cannons used on board British Navel Vessels. The 1 Pounder shown here was the smallest Cannon to meet the requirements of the Insurance Companies. This unique Cannon Barrel was recovered sometime during the late 19th century from a shipwreck found off the coast of England in the English Channel. It is one of only two known to exist.

1840 BRITISH INSURANCE GUN - SWIVEL CANNON - DECK CARRIAGE

1840 British Insurance Gun in Deck Carriage and Swivel Cannon Yoke Fabrication and Swivel Gun Plans.

www.buckstix.com

Never heard of those before, thanks for some new and interesting info. I guess this was the 19th century version of "What's in your wallet?"

 

[redbob]

That would be awesome, but I can only afford a ten pounder Parrot.

Because I'm young, and have no job yet, I make money by buying antique odds and ends for low, and selling them on ebay auctions, or on private forums. It's a good way to make money, but it is risky. The average price for a ten pounder Parrot is $200. I do not want to go above that line, and if I can, I'd like to avoid that line altogether, and find one for cheaper. That's one thing about me, I'm very frugal when it comes to adding to my collection.


However, next year I'll be old enough to go to conductor training for Norfolk Southern, and starting pay for a conductor is around 45,000 a year. That's good pay for a single guy, living in a small house.

Patience Grasshopper, they have been around for 150+ years and they should still be around when you are ready for them.

 

[Ethan S.]

Patience Grasshopper, they have been around for 150+ years and they should still be around when you are ready for them.

I'd really really really really really really love to find one, but I keep walking past them! I've been to areas with my detector, and someone who saw me in that area will walk up to me with a Boremann, or a Hotchkiss, and once, a Mulane that they just found, that my detector didn't pick up. Oh well.

 

[UCVRelics]

I'd really really really really really really love to find one, but I keep walking past them! I've been to areas with my detector, and someone who saw me in that area will walk up to me with a Boremann, or a Hotchkiss, and once, a Mulane that they just found, that my detector didn't pick up. Oh well.

I only want $750 for the 100lb Parrott. What kind of machine do you swing?

 

[Ethan S.]

I only want $750 for the 100lb Parrott. What kind of machine do you swing?

An old (1990s) Whites MXT. It doesn't have the depth of some of these modern detectors. I'd love an Equinox or an AT MAX, but I can't afford that now.

$750, is still a wee bit too high for me. If you still have it a few years down the road, I'll PM you.

 

[Tom Hughes]

I like digging them all.
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That's a good day of digging right there!

 

[UCVRelics]

That's a good day of digging right there!

That's a photo I took of Mr. Charlie after a full day of us digging at Port Hudson back in the early 80's. Remind me at Vicksburg and I'll tell you about the sign

 

[Ethan S.]

That's a photo I took of Mr. Charlie after a full day of us digging at Port Hudson back in the early 80's. Remind me at Vicksburg and I'll tell you about the sign

All that iron gives me the goose bumps. I couldn't imagine the feeling of finding one, let alone that many. I was with a guy as he dug up a Mulane. I passed right over it with my detector, while he heard it very well with his Equinox. We were both happy about it.

 

[Ethan S.]

I only want $750 for the 100lb Parrott. What kind of machine do you swing?

Great news, I am in the market for an Equinox! My grandmother offered to help me pay for one, and I have the money for it...now I just need to sell some bottles as a buffer and I'm good! Now maybe I'll find something now...

 

[Western Reserve Volunteer]

A one pound ball isn't out of the question for a swivel gun, which could have been on a keelboat.

Insurance guns are an interesting subject. The infamous gunnade (carronade-gun cross) and many oddball cannons have maritime origins. Incidentally, I have always referred to the mostly useless backseats of sports cars as insurance seats! But who knows perhaps you could carry an insurance gun in your insurance seat?

 

[LHR Lead]

Could it be from a Woodruff gun? Although they are usually called 2-pdrs, the bore of 2.125 inches would not allow for a two pound ball. Woodruffs are know to have been used by the Union in the Mississippi area.