Read those "facts"... they don't address what I have posted... nice spin though.
101combatvet,
Actually, they have.
You stated in your previous post:
"Blacks in the House when the vote is cast...really?"
A verifiable source was given that showed blacks were in the House when the vote was cast, to include Charles Douglass, son of the abolitionist leader, Frederick Douglass.
(Source: Final Freedom: The Civil War, The Abolition of Slavery, and the Thirteenth Amendment, by Michael Vorenberg.)
You said you had a problem with the idea of:
"Celebrations in the streets after the passing of the 13th Amendment."
A website was provided that showed Northern newspapers reporting celebrations on the passage of the 13th Amendment, from within the House chamber itself, to the firing of a 100 cannon salute, to celebrations in the city of Washington itself.
http://www.newsinhistory.com/blog/us-congress-passes-13th-amendment-abolish-slavery
You stated you had a problem believing that:
"White soldiers reciting the Gettysburg Address... what country bumpkins could do that? The last lines by the Harvard grad."
A website was provided showing that the sweeping statement by you that apparently all Union soldiers were country bumpkins shows that there were many educated soldiers in the Union army, with quite a few from Harvard who were more than capable of reading, memorizing, and repeating the Gettysburg Address in its entirety, as the speech was reported in almost every Northern newspaper of the time which were avidally read by Union soldiers.
http://news.havard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/blue-gray-and-crimson/
You stated you had problems with the movie version of:
"The peace negotiations...covered in another thread."
The thread was provided so any and all at this forum could view it and make up their own minds on how close the actual Hampton Roads Peace Conference was compared to the movie script.
http://civilwartalk.com/threads/the-hampton-roads-conference-as-presented-in-the-movie-lincoln.78373
You had problems with the movie version of:
"Thaddeus Stevens sleeping with his black house keeper - unproven."
A website was provided about that house keeper, Lydia Hamilton Smith so others of the forum could make up their own minds on that topic, even though your initial assumption appears to be correct.
http://stevensandsmith.org/
You seem to be unconvinced of the idea that:
"Black (Union) soldiers speaking like Harvard grads."
You make a follow-up comment that most black
"USCT reenactors I've met over the years don't talk smack like that." So present-day USCT reenactors are somehow, in your opinion, representative of the nearly 180,000 Civil War era USCTs in the way they spoke in the 1860s? An interesting personal opinion that takes nothing into account nor references any of the free blacks or former slaves that resided in the North and more than likely had no 'southern' accents nor gives any reference to the blacks that were enrolled in Northern colleges, such as Oberlin College in Ohio for one. The fact of the matter is, just like the story of Thaddeus Stevens sleeping with his black house keeper is uproven, so is your theory that "Black soldiers speaking like Harvard grads" is also unproven, merely an opinion you have given to express your dislike of the movie.
You also are uncomfortable with the idea of:
"Tad's collection of glass negative plates depicting slaves."
Well, here my search did hit a dry hole, as I cannot find any sources or references that state consicely shows Tad Lincoln had a "collection of glass negative plates depicting slaves." But when I watched the movie, I didn't get the impression of a "collection" more than I did a few pictures, one in particular showing a slave.
But hey, I guess its all in the eye/opinion of the beholder/movie-goer.
There is one thought that I come away with after doing all this research on your opinions you expressed above in your previous post.
Certainty is not proof.
Insistence is not fact.
Opinion is not evidence.
Sorry you didn't enjoy the movie more.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
just not logical for the period in question.
Bringing the