Hatfields and McCoys

[mulejack]

One needn't go to a fancy school to be literate.

The word I mentioned was Incognito do you realy believe it was a well used word among even well eductated people in the 1870's never mind the less educated and many uneducated backwoods people of the Hatfield and McCoy Clan.
Incognito is An Italian Latin word. How this becomes a matter of controversy is just someone looking to pick a quarrel over a meaningless statement such as I don't believe that word would have been used in a sentence by a backwoods type person. If you Ole and you Bob Owens believe trhey had above average intelligence thats' fine, the backwoods people of the Hatfield and MxcCoy era were probaly rocket scientists or brain surgeans.

Mulejack

 

[JWheeler331]

Thank goodness for DVR. I would have never got to see half of the "what happened to each person" that they played at at the end. They ran through that so fast.....I ended up rewinding it several times to look at the pictures and read the words.

My only complaint (and I knew they were going to do this) is that they went through the story at a good pace on nights one and two and then kind of rushed everything to the end in the last one. I would have rather it lasted another night or two and got a little more story in it. Its not a real complaint though cause I still thought it was absolutely GREAT.

 

[K Hale]

Some of them, at least, were literate. They were shown reading newspapers. Newspapers were written by educated people. That's how people learn, by picking things up. To quote Al Swearengen from DEADWOOD, "Is it the job of the newspaper to educate the reader or make him feel like a dunce?"

Which character used "incognito"?

 

[Bob Owen]

The word I mentioned was Incognito do you realy believe it was a well used word among even well eductated people in the 1870's never mind the less educated and many uneducated backwoods people of the Hatfield and McCoy Clan.
Incognito is An Italian Latin word. How this becomes a matter of controversy is just someone looking to pick a quarrel over a meaningless statement such as I don't believe that word would have been used in a sentence by a backwoods type person. If you Ole and you Bob Owens believe trhey had above average intelligence thats' fine, the backwoods people of the Hatfield and MxcCoy era were probaly rocket scientists or brain surgeans.

Mulejack

I don't think that they were below average because they were not from the big city! I do believe that the word was well known and used in that time frame. It would not have been a stretch at all to use that word even during the Revolutionary War era. I was familiar with it as far as I can remember as my father used it often in conversation. My father used to say that my mother was the devil incognito.

 

[mulejack]

I don't think that they were below average because they were not from the big city! I do believe that the word was well known and used in that time frame. It would not have been a stretch at all to use that word even during the Revolutionary War era. I was familiar with it as far as I can remember as my father used it often in conversation. My father used to say that my mother was the devil incognito.View attachment 4873

It's amusing how the people you always ignore and never read their posts or anything they discuss are usually the ones looking to make a mountain out of a molehill. Little things amuse small minds I f guess.

Mulejack

 

[3rd TN Cav USA]

Perhaps some of these backwoods types would have gotten some book learnin' here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania_University
It's been there since 1780 and may have the coolest name of any institute of higher learning in these here United States.

BTW I really enjoyed the movie, hopefully History will get back in the history business again.

 

[tmh10]

Some of them, at least, were literate. They were shown reading newspapers. Newspapers were written by educated people. That's how people learn, by picking things up. To quote Al Swearengen from DEADWOOD, "Is it the job of the newspaper to educate the reader or make him feel like a dunce?"

Which character used "incognito"?

Most all the schools had a latin class back then, and reading was a prime entertainment for those that could read. Have the complete series of Deadwood on bluray. That Al was quite the philosopher.

 

[Dave Hull]

The firing squad scene really threw me. Honestly I thought it was all bluff by the Hatfields...until they pulled the trigger. Don't know why I thought that, but after they had tied the three McCoy boys up to the trees then started to form up in firing squad formation opposite them I'm thinking, "Surely they're not going to really shoot these guys."

That scene was true to life, folks in that part of the country who take care of things themselves. No one calls the law unless it is to get rid of the bodies.

 

[TheSouthernCause]

This was great! I was glued to the TV. The only thing I question is why film in Romania instead of the Appalachian?

 

[tmh10]

This was great! I was glued to the TV. The only thing I question is why film in Romania instead of the Appalachian?

They must have been afraid we would start it up again.

 

[tmh10]

The word I mentioned was Incognito do you realy believe it was a well used word among even well eductated people in the 1870's never mind the less educated and many uneducated backwoods people of the Hatfield and McCoy Clan.
Incognito is An Italian Latin word. How this becomes a matter of controversy is just someone looking to pick a quarrel over a meaningless statement such as I don't believe that word would have been used in a sentence by a backwoods type person. If you Ole and you Bob Owens believe trhey had above average intelligence thats' fine, the backwoods people of the Hatfield and MxcCoy era were probaly rocket scientists or brain surgeans.

Mulejack

"Ad multos et faustissimos annos," To you from a West Virginian. Cheers Ted

 

[BillO]

It's amusing how the people you always ignore and never read their posts or anything they discuss are usually the ones looking to make a mountain out of a molehill. Little things amuse small minds I f guess.

Mulejack

Having a bad day?

 

[pamc153PA]

This was great! I was glued to the TV. The only thing I question is why film in Romania instead of the Appalachian?

It's cheaper that way, and there are way less modern "intrusions," like power lines.

 

[bobs0651]

The firing squad scene really threw me. Honestly I thought it was all bluff by the Hatfields...until they pulled the trigger. Don't know why I thought that, but after they had tied the three McCoy boys up to the trees then started to form up in firing squad formation opposite them I'm thinking, "Surely they're not going to really shoot these guys."

felt likewise glorybound, didn't believe it when the shots went off.
to me this was one of the most aweful scenes in the whole series..... to kill 3 young boys like that was beyond cold hearted. not sure if all of the shooters were into doing it.

 

[Nathanb1]

They could have learned it from reading about Lincoln's entrance through Baltimore before his 1st inauguration....or Davis' capture.

 

[K Hale]

That scene was true to life, folks in that part of the country who take care of things themselves. No one calls the law unless it is to get rid of the bodies.

I am assuming folks in that region have now eschewed executions, yes? Because you wrote that in the present tense...

 

[K Hale]

felt likewise glorybound, didn't believe it when the shots went off.
to me this was one of the most aweful scenes in the whole series..... to kill 3 young boys like that was beyond cold hearted. not sure if all of the shooters were into doing it.

Well, those three young boys (actually grown men) did cold heartedly murder Ellison Hatfield over nothing. Sooo...

 

[TerryB]

Perhaps some of these backwoods types would have gotten some book learnin' here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania_University
It's been there since 1780 and may have the coolest name of any institute of higher learning in these here United States.

BTW I really enjoyed the movie, hopefully History will get back in the history business again.

I have an ancestor who graduated from Transylvania Medical College in 1822.

 

[TerryB]

I've read too many dignified quotes from frontier people to believe that their English was somehow less than. It would depend on how much the family valued "book larnin'." Lincoln has been mentioned, and I'd like to add that Frank James was fond of quoting Shakespeare.

 

[Glorybound]

Costner-Paxton 'Hatfields & McCoys' is a record-setting ratings winner for History channel

By Associated Press, Published: May 31

LOS ANGELES — In the feud between the Hatfields and McCoys, the History channel proved the winner.

A miniseries about the warring families set basic cable viewing records, according to Nielsen Co. figures the channel released Thursday.

The three nights of "Hatfields & McCoys" were the top-rated entertainment telecasts ever for ad-supported basic cable, History said.

Wednesday's finale of "Hatfields & McCoys" was the most-watched of the three nights, with 14.3 million viewers. According to the History channel, that makes it the No. 1 non-sports and non-news program ever on ad-supported cable.

Parts one and two of the star-filled drama were right behind with 13.9 million and 13.1 million viewers, respectively.

Besides Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton, the miniseries' cast included Tom Berenger, Mare Winningham and Powers Boothe.

The previous top-rated basic cable entertainment program was TNT's 2001 Western drama, "Crossfire Trail," starring Tom Selleck and based on the Louis L'Amour novel.

"Hatfields & McCoys" starred Costner and Paxton as the patriarchs of the West Virginia and Kentucky clans whose violent clashes had roots in the American Civil War. The miniseries is to be released on Blu-ray and DVD July 31.
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