Hatfields and McCoys

Hatfields and McCoys square off again — but on unfamiliar terrain

By Roger Catlin, Friday, May 25, 10:42 AM

MBarr_KCostner2.jpg

Johnse Hatfield (Matt Barr) and Devil Anse Hatfield (Kevin Costner) in History Channel's 'Hatfields & McCoys'.

The feuding has commenced again, complete with shootin', spittin' and cussin' (not to mention corncob pipes and moonshine).

But the hills where the latest Hatfields vs. McCoys skirmish has flared up are not in the Appalachians, where the battle dragged out over decades near the West Virginia/Kentucky border.

They're in Romania.

The six-hour History Channel miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys," premiering this week, was shot in a region better known for its association with Count Dracula.

"I think we all would have preferred to be close to home, and on the Appalachian mountains, but we weren't," says Kevin Costner, who plays the grizzled patriarch, William Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield, in the saga.

"I think that added a je ne sais quoi quality to the whole proceedings," says Bill Paxton, who plays Randall McCoy. "There's something very gothic about that country. . . . And seeing peasants still pulling oxcarts of wood they've gathered from the forest, I think it added a nice vibe to the thing."

Paxton took a side trip to Kentucky on the way to work in Eastern Europe. "I thought, 'Gee, if I'm going over to Romania to shoot this thing, I better go take a look to see what it looks like for real.' And I was kind of amazed there were so many similarities."

The hills made the region somewhat claustrophobic, leading Paxton to observe: "You can see how that part geographically was just so isolated so long. And how something like a feud like this could go on for a long time."
Although the Civil War was somewhat responsible for the feud, the whole calamity was built on a misunderstanding, Costner says. "The Union soldier who was killed early was killed by a guy that didn't even participate in the war."

The two heads of the families, friends during the war, were forced into this long feud, in part, because of their children.

"In researching the story, I guess I gathered as much as I possibly could, so I didn't come to it thinking it was a fairy tale," Costner says. "I knew it was a real story with real participants, set against an era, a time, coming out of the Civil War, so I knew how deep the feelings were running just over that war."

And yet, Costner continues, the offspring of the feuding heads of family "didn't know what the Civil War was about, and they didn't know what some of these old scars were about, and a combination of drinking and unemployment and all this stuff just led to these kind of murders, and then, of course, the patriarchs had to stand up."

Costner says he sees Hatfield as an honorable man, an entrepreneur who hired McCoys in his lumberyard.

For his part, Paxton says, he had a hard time relating to McCoy. "But my job's not to relate to him, but to try to give conviction of character."

What helped the actor most was a privately published book of letters from a Civil War soldier. "Those were an amazing account because this man really truly lived by his Christian convictions and his sense of honor, and he ended up being an officer of the Confederate Army," Paxton says. ". . . But he talked about the profiteering going on back home, he talked about the war, he talked about their Christian duty."

The conflict between the Hatfields and the McCoys didn't settle down until the turn of the 20th century and a formal truce wasn't signed until 2003. Now, the two sides are trying to cooperate. Having squared off good-naturedly with Richard Dawson on a 1979 episode of "Family Feud," they are now helping to turn the remote battlegrounds of their forebears into tourist destinations.

For all of its history, there is something resonant in the Hatfield-McCoy feud that continues today, the actors say.
"There has certainly been revenge killing happening in this century. Based on what's happening in Libya and Serbia-Croatia and Afghanistan and Iraq, there's going to be honor killings for the next 50 to 60 years there," Costner says. "So what's really changed?"

"The theme is timeless," Paxton says. "Revenge and obsession and reprisals — these things are going on all over the place, all over the world. A lot of the conflicts we're in, we're dealing with people who have been killing each other for hundreds of years, and it's not going to stop: I kill your mother, and you kill my brother. And somebody comes along, it's just violence begets violence. It's a Biblical theme. It's been around since the beginning of man."

Catlin is a freelance writer.

Hatfields & McCoys
Monday through Wednesday at 8 p.m. on
the History Channel.
 
Posted on Thu, May. 24, 2012
Decades of feuding, six hours of TV
By RICH HELDENFELS
Akron Beacon Journal

The 19th-century conflict between the Hatfield and McCoy families became the definitive feud of American history. To this day it provides a shorthand way of describing a hate-laced, unbending, seemingly endless battle between two groups. But what in fact happened between the Hatfields and McCoys?

The History channel offers a very long answer with the three-part miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys," starring Kevin Costner as "Devil Anse" Hatfield and Bill Paxton as Randall McCoy, the patriarchs of the feuding clans. It premieres from 9 to 11:06 p.m. Monday, 9 to 11:05 p.m. Tuesday and 9 to 11 p.m. Wednesday. History has also tied other programs to the Hatfields/ McCoys theme, including back-to-back episodes of "Pawn Stars" airing at 8 p.m. Monday.

Costner, who is also a producer of the series, has demonstrated a need to take lots of time to tell a story, and "Hatfields & McCoys" follows that pattern. At times, it seems as if the program is going to last as long as the decades consumed by the real-life feud.

But that time demonstrates how pervasive, and complicated, were the events in the feud. Not only did they involve two large families, but also lawyers, judges, at least one minister, the governors of two states and the U.S. Supreme Court. Periods of seeming peace would end suddenly in capricious bloodletting. (CBS News reported a few years ago on a rare disease afflicting the McCoys, which may have caused some "hair-trigger rage and violent outbursts.") And when one side was attacked, the other had to respond in kind.

The drama, which draws heavily on historical accounts of the feud, traces it to hard feelings between Anse and Randall during the Civil War, feelings that carried into the postwar years. Although they lived on opposite sides of a river - McCoy in Kentucky, Hatfield in West Virginia - their paths repeatedly crossed and their interests conflicted, usually with lethal results.

While the patriarchs loom over the action, the story spins far beyond them. Key players include Anse's son Johnse (Matt Barr), who falls in love with Randall's daughter Roseanna (Lindsay Pulsipher), to the dismay of both families. Perry Cline (Ronan Vibert), a McCoy family lawyer, takes advantage of the feud for his own gain, as does "Bad Frank" Phillips (a quite scary Andrew Howard), a gun for hire with an old grudge against the Hatfields. While Anse seems to drive the feud, his brother Wall (Powers Boothe) keeps getting dragged into it because of his position as a local judge. And there's Jim Vance (Tom Berenger), Anse's violent uncle, who repeatedly plays a pivotal role in the feud. So does Nancy McCoy (Jena Malone), unscrupulous and driven.

The cast is good, with many effective scenes. But I still felt too often that the tale could have been more tightly told - and more dramatic as a result.

Rich Heldenfels: [email protected]

http://www.thestate.com/2012/05/24/2288544/decades-of-feuding-six-hours-of.html
 
I am looking forward to this series. Thanks for posting this Glorybound...........
 
Hatfields and McCoys square off again — but on unfamiliar terrain

By Roger Catlin, Friday, May 25, 10:42 AM

MBarr_KCostner2.jpg

Johnse Hatfield (Matt Barr) and Devil Anse Hatfield (Kevin Costner) in History Channel's 'Hatfields & McCoys'.

The feuding has commenced again, complete with shootin', spittin' and cussin' (not to mention corncob pipes and moonshine).

But the hills where the latest Hatfields vs. McCoys skirmish has flared up are not in the Appalachians, where the battle dragged out over decades near the West Virginia/Kentucky border.

They're in Romania.

The six-hour History Channel miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys," premiering this week, was shot in a region better known for its association with Count Dracula.

"I think we all would have preferred to be close to home, and on the Appalachian mountains, but we weren't," says Kevin Costner, who plays the grizzled patriarch, William Anderson "Devil Anse" Hatfield, in the saga.

"I think that added a je ne sais quoi quality to the whole proceedings," says Bill Paxton, who plays Randall McCoy. "There's something very gothic about that country. . . . And seeing peasants still pulling oxcarts of wood they've gathered from the forest, I think it added a nice vibe to the thing."

Paxton took a side trip to Kentucky on the way to work in Eastern Europe. "I thought, 'Gee, if I'm going over to Romania to shoot this thing, I better go take a look to see what it looks like for real.' And I was kind of amazed there were so many similarities."

The hills made the region somewhat claustrophobic, leading Paxton to observe: "You can see how that part geographically was just so isolated so long. And how something like a feud like this could go on for a long time."
Although the Civil War was somewhat responsible for the feud, the whole calamity was built on a misunderstanding, Costner says. "The Union soldier who was killed early was killed by a guy that didn't even participate in the war."

The two heads of the families, friends during the war, were forced into this long feud, in part, because of their children.

"In researching the story, I guess I gathered as much as I possibly could, so I didn't come to it thinking it was a fairy tale," Costner says. "I knew it was a real story with real participants, set against an era, a time, coming out of the Civil War, so I knew how deep the feelings were running just over that war."

And yet, Costner continues, the offspring of the feuding heads of family "didn't know what the Civil War was about, and they didn't know what some of these old scars were about, and a combination of drinking and unemployment and all this stuff just led to these kind of murders, and then, of course, the patriarchs had to stand up."

Costner says he sees Hatfield as an honorable man, an entrepreneur who hired McCoys in his lumberyard.

For his part, Paxton says, he had a hard time relating to McCoy. "But my job's not to relate to him, but to try to give conviction of character."

What helped the actor most was a privately published book of letters from a Civil War soldier. "Those were an amazing account because this man really truly lived by his Christian convictions and his sense of honor, and he ended up being an officer of the Confederate Army," Paxton says. ". . . But he talked about the profiteering going on back home, he talked about the war, he talked about their Christian duty."

The conflict between the Hatfields and the McCoys didn't settle down until the turn of the 20th century and a formal truce wasn't signed until 2003. Now, the two sides are trying to cooperate. Having squared off good-naturedly with Richard Dawson on a 1979 episode of "Family Feud," they are now helping to turn the remote battlegrounds of their forebears into tourist destinations.

For all of its history, there is something resonant in the Hatfield-McCoy feud that continues today, the actors say.
"There has certainly been revenge killing happening in this century. Based on what's happening in Libya and Serbia-Croatia and Afghanistan and Iraq, there's going to be honor killings for the next 50 to 60 years there," Costner says. "So what's really changed?"

"The theme is timeless," Paxton says. "Revenge and obsession and reprisals — these things are going on all over the place, all over the world. A lot of the conflicts we're in, we're dealing with people who have been killing each other for hundreds of years, and it's not going to stop: I kill your mother, and you kill my brother. And somebody comes along, it's just violence begets violence. It's a Biblical theme. It's been around since the beginning of man."

Catlin is a freelance writer.

Hatfields & McCoys
Monday through Wednesday at 8 p.m. on
the History Channel.

Some of the filming of the movie "Cold Mountain" was also done in Romania.
 
Some of the filming of the movie "Cold Mountain" was also done in Romania.

I didn't know that thanks for the information. I remember the movie " The Last of the Mohicans" was filmed around or near Asheville NC. Originally I thought that was filmed in upstate NY. The Cold Mountain Romania site kind of surprised me much like the Hatfields and McCoys. One would think it would be less expensive to film here in the US but I am not in the film making business.............
 
I didn't know that thanks for the information. I remember the movie " The Last of the Mohicans" was filmed around or near Asheville NC. Originally I thought that was filmed in upstate NY. The Cold Mountain Romania site kind of surprised me much like the Hatfields and McCoys. One would think it would be less expensive to film here in the US but I am not in the film making business.............
In the US, we have power poles and traffic and tilled fields. (And chubby extras.) Romania offers pristine landscapes. Beats the hell out of having to shoot around civilization.
 
In the US, we have power poles and traffic and tilled fields. (And chubby extras.) Romania offers pristine landscapes. Beats the hell out of having to shoot around civilization.

That is correct. In the "Cold Mountain" scene of when the North Carolina troops were marching out of their hometown wearing the N. Carolina issued sack coats with the black shoulder straps all of this was filmed in Romania. All of the extras used were Romanians. Pristine landscape, the existing towns and buildings resembled what you would have seen in the South in 1861. That's the reason they went there for filming.
 
In the US, we have power poles and traffic and tilled fields. (And chubby extras.) Romania offers pristine landscapes. Beats the hell out of having to shoot around civilization.

good points all..........I would be one of the first to shriek "look at that utility pole with the transformer" were I to see such a thing in the background.........<g>
 
Photo from the McCoy article (these folks are Hatfields):

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I see five people holding guns in that photo, and at least three of them are pointing the gun in the direction of a family member.

I'll give this show a try. Don't know if I can take six hours of it, though. LOL.
 
Anyone else looking forward to watching the 3 night series on the History Channel? Pretty good line-up of actors, Civil War background/related and interesting story. The previews look pretty good. Looks much better than their recent project on Gettysburg.

Thought Randall McCoy fought for the Union ??? They got it right about his nephew, Harmon. I believe a lot of the Hatfields were officially listed as " deserted. " Pretty much ignored orders. Came home and fought WHO they wanted to and WHEN they wanted to.
 
Photo from the McCoy article (these folks are Hatfields):

Expired Image Removed

I see five people holding guns in that photo, and at least three of them are pointing the gun in the direction of a family member.

I'll give this show a try. Don't know if I can take six hours of it, though. LOL.
Being born and raised in West Virginia, please do not dispare over the guns. We tend to enjoy them. So far I am enjoying the show. Still know people who share their mindset.:D

PS: If you ever visit here you will feel as a member of the family.
 
tmh10 said:
Being born and raised in West Virginia, please do not dispare over the guns. We tend to enjoy them. So far I am enjoying the show. Still know people who share their mindset.:D

PS: If you ever visit here you will feel as a member of the family.

You tend to enjoy pointing them at family members? Or is that what you meant by "you'll feel like a member of the family if you come here"? ;)

I looked up that photo again last night. The original caption didn't say, but the man sitting second from left (who is not pointing a gun at a family member) is Devil Anse.
 
We enjoyed first night. Will watch the second episode tonight.

this is an outstanding series! act one was excellent IMHO very glad powers booth is in it, great person, very good actor in any part he plays. anyone know where he's from?

and btw, from a few posts back.... that winchester is to die for gulp lol
 

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