M1841 Whitney - A keeper?

[Bill S]

A M1841 rifle with an 1848 E. Whitney lock marking and a browned barrel.

Is this your M1841? The "browned" barrel looks great.

 

[Mr. King]

Bannerman's modified a lot of arms, and some of their descriptions may have been a bit creative, but they NEVER had a reputation for fraudulently marking arms to make them Confederate.
J.

"Always a salesman, Bannerman's often modified their products to sell better. When it was seen that customers would turn their noses up at beautiful US Army Remington revolvers only to pay twice as much for a Confederate Colt Navy from the same period, increasing quantities of US guns started appearing on the company's shelves and catalogs with fresh CSA markings."
This US Army issue Remington 1858 revolver in the authors collection has very interesting CSA markings in several places and is likely a 'Bannerman's Special'. (Photo: Chris Eger)

http://www.guns.com/2015/11/07/bannermans-legacy-ultimate-army-navy-store/

 

[drm2m]

Thanks.
Yes ---I have owned it since May 1995.

Once upon a time I assume there were crisp clear cartouches here.

 

[Mr. King]

I recall some reenactors attempting to alter their Remington "Zouave" rifles to make them appear to be Mississippi rifles. The same guys also altered repro 1842 Springfields to look like Palmettto Muskets.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

Bannerman's has been a favorite study for me for over half a century, and I have had the good fortune to have known many people and friends who had done business with Bannerman's both on "The Island" and in NYC. In addition to that I have collected Bannerman's catalogs for many years. None of the catalogs, nor any of the conversations with the old friends, ever touched upon Bannerman fraudulently marking items with "CSA". The link to the article about Bannerman only guesses that Bannerman had added the "CSA" marking to the revolver shown in the article. Bannerman made some interesting arms, but they were never done with the intent to defraud, as they were all purpose made for a number of reasons other than fraud.
J.

 

[Bill S]

Thanks.
Yes ---I have owned it since May 1995.

Once upon a time I assume there were crisp clear cartouches here.

A very nice rifle!

 

[Mr. King]

Bannerman's has been a favorite study for me for over half a century, and I have had the good fortune to have known many people and friends who had done business with Bannerman's both on "The Island" and in NYC. In addition to that I have collected Bannerman's catalogs for many years. None of the catalogs, nor any of the conversations with the old friends, ever touched upon Bannerman fraudulently marking items with "CSA". The link to the article about Bannerman only guesses that Bannerman had added the "CSA" marking to the revolver shown in the article. Bannerman made some interesting arms, but they were never done with the intent to defraud, as they were all purpose made for a number of reasons other than fraud.
J.

Well, half a century is more than I will ever know about the man. I only know what I read online.

Somebody must have been busy stamping things like that, though. It certainly bumped profit margins.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

The flurry of activity and upsurge in stamping items with "CSA" began in the 1940's after WW2 when one of the arms collector guides stated "Items stamped with CSA will bring a premium in value." I don't recall exactly which book it was at the moment, other than I know I have the book.
J.