Yet Another Jesse James Image

[mofederal]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/finance/t...could-be-worth-242-million/ar-BBKtckw?ffid=gz

I read a story yesterday online about a new image of Jesse James being found. This one came off ebay. They did not list the authenticating sources, but I have some ideas who they might be, but I think someone is going to spend a lot of money for something questionable. I mean they are estimating $2 Million. I have strong doubts about the image.

 

[ikesdad]

This sort of thing comes out of the woodwork a lot lately, ever since some guy in Cali claimed he found Bonney's picture in a storage shed playing croquet. I reckon they are throwing the dice with Barnum's statement that there is one born every minute.

 

[archieclement]

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/finance/t...could-be-worth-242-million/ar-BBKtckw?ffid=gz

I read a story yesterday online about a new image of Jesse James being found. This one came off ebay. They did not list the authenticating sources, but I have some ideas who they might be, but I think someone is going to spend a lot of money for something I have strong doubts about the image.

I saw it yesterday too, thought it a bit odd in story acted like it was very credible, but doesn't match known images I know of.....

Would think it has to be within a couple years of his famous guerrilla photo.....not seeing the resemblance...........

 

[TerryB]

Before I read the story, I thought this must be a photo of a young Jesse James. So I read on and sure enough...I think it could be real.

 

[mofederal]

One question I have is about the cost of images in the 1850's and 60's? I don't understand how people of poor to moderate means could afford a lot of images. I cannot remember seeing a price guide on images from the time. The authenticity claims are crucial, because it has gotten to be big business to make them, the Billy the Kid and Pat Garret image claim, has largely been panned. True West Magazine reports on these image finds pretty often.

 

[Mr. King]

Bull

Jesse's mother would have to hand this to me, and swear under oath that it was him before I'd believe it.

Every time there is a photo of a young white male from the 1800s, we are told it's Billy or Jesse. BS

 

[byron ed]

Jesse James was a two-bit vicious punk, basically in today's terms just another gang-banger. If his remains might be worth about $7.50 or so for the elements, a photo of him is worth no more than a quarter, and that's to see the clothes.

 

[byron ed]

Before I read the story, I thought this must be a photo of a young Jesse James. So I read on and sure enough...I think it could be real.

...entertaining.

 

[chubachus]

It looks like his neck grew a few inches during the photoshoot. Also the ears look different: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/58386...its-of-outlaw-jesse-james-and-worth-2million/

Also, I've never seen the photo they are comparing the new image to before. Is it authenticated?

 

[James N.]

... I read a story yesterday online about a new image of Jesse James being found. This one came off ebay. They did not list the authenticating sources, but I have some ideas who they might be, but I think someone is going to spend a lot of money for something questionable. I mean they are estimating $2 Million. I have strong doubts about the image.

The best evidence here is the photo itself - not of the subject, but the background, props, etc. This could certainly be a photo of Jesse, but if it IS he would be a young teen, which he was at the beginning of the war. Unfortunately, the backdrop, his pose, and his attire all suggest a later period, say 1870's. So if it's Jesse he's time-traveled at least a decade into the future to have his "likeness" made!

 

[ikesdad]

And some fool will buy it at auction.

 

[Mike Serpa]

In these photos of Jesse from the LOC he has light eyes. In the OP photo he has dark eyes?

 

[Championhilz]

The best evidence here is the photo itself - not of the subject, but the background, props, etc. This could certainly be a photo of Jesse, but if it IS he would be a young teen, which he was at the beginning of the war. Unfortunately, the backdrop, his pose, and his attire all suggest a later period, say 1870's. So if it's Jesse he's time-traveled at least a decade into the future to have his "likeness" made!

My first impression as well was that is a post-Civil War image.

 

[ikesdad]

Ears are wrong. Eyebrows are dark as is the hair - wrong. Distance between nose and upper lip - wrong. Shoulders are wrong. Time period is wrong. It does not smell right.

 

[Mark A]

My immediate thought was - the eyes are wrong! Not him.

 

[Eleanor Rose]

Great share @mofederal! I have never heard what an image in the 1850's and 60's might have cost. I would be curious to find out. Hopefully someone will know and share.

 

[ikesdad]

A modern studio portrait can be a bit pricey yet still affordable. At that time with such things still fairly young and the process complicated, I suspect that cost value to be much higher.

 

[SWMODave]

Great share @mofederal! I have never heard what an image in the 1850's and 60's might have cost. I would be curious to find out. Hopefully someone will know and share.

Early in war before prices probably rose - from Diary of John G Morrison

Dec 12th (1861), Thursday. Arose at 6 1/2. Finnegan had the fire going. Hated to get up, I felt so comfortable. Had to, if I did not want to do an extra guard. Expended a dollar to have my likeness taken in Ambrotype to send home, as my dear wife has been asking me to do.

He also wrote on what happens when his regiment made their colonel mad during drilling the day before
Sept 13th, Friday. Went out digging today. Walked about 4 miles to our work and then found ourselves about five minutes walk from our own encampment. ……

 

[archieclement]

In these photos of Jesse from the LOC he has light eyes. In the OP photo he has dark eyes?
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What cracks me up is the $$$ these wannabe gold diggers see, the guerrilla photo sold in 2013 for $7000, the older photo sold for $51000 in 2011 and its even believed to be signed by jesse...........so how is a dubious looking photo with no provenance est at 2 million?.............

the photo reminds me more of Adams family then Jesse...........

 

[Patrick H]

I have seen this young man's image given as a photo of Jesse quite a number of times. For example, look at this image on the James Family Museum website:

https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/Jesse-James-Fourteen-Years-Old

Or you could scroll down and peruse this image, supposedly Jesse and Frank in 1872. It's the same young man on the left, but I am not at all sure that's Frank on the right, and it sure as HECK isn't as late as 1872. Maybe 1862, but there's no way it's 1872. Scroll down to second image and take a look:

https://www.history.com/news/history-lists/7-things-you-might-not-know-about-jesse-james

On the other hand, there is no mistaking the face of Frank James.