Woodruff Gun specs?

[Rusk County Avengers]

Are there any detailed specs on the Woodruff gun?

We have them for most guns, but I've yet to come across any on the Woodruff.

 

[archieclement]

I might be able to get a pic of one of the he tubes sometime, the one at old Fort Madison

 

[Belfoured]

Are there any detailed specs on the Woodruff gun?

We have them for most guns, but I've yet to come across any on the Woodruff.

IIRC, the tube was 36", the bore was 2.12", and it weighed 256 pounds. I'm not sure if it used the M1841 Mountain Howitzer carriage.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

IIRC, the tube was 36", the bore was 2.12", and it weighed 256 pounds. I'm not sure if it used the M1841 Mountain Howitzer carriage.

I'm pretty sure it used its own carriage. This photo appears to show some unique features.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

I might be able to get a pic of one of the he tubes sometime, the one at old Fort Madison

Well, when you do go see it, could you take a cloth measuring tape? The information @Belfoured is all I've been able to find, but the taper, and other factors unable to find.

You see there's an event here locally that has welcomed my input to make it unique, an older Missourian Gentleman we both know who when he does cut a mould and cast a tube, he prefers smaller pieces, and I would love to learn his trade, and I think a Woodruff is just the ticket for this idea. Provided I can get it off the ground.

A Woodruff and Missouri militia/Grierson's Raid impressions would be awesome, and I learn the rest of what I need to know to use the diagrams of a CS M1862 Mountain Rifle in the future.

And I know you'd absolutely love to help out for Missouri related stuff...


No need for a special trip or favor though. If I can nail Tom down in one spot and get a hold of him!

 

[UCVRelics]

Here is a great photo of one.

 

[UCVRelics]

I'm pretty sure it used its own carriage. This photo appears to show some unique features.

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I believe that one is way to big for a Woodruff

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

I believe that one is way to big for a Woodruff

I don't know, they were supposed to have 4 ft. wheels, and ammo chest mounted on the axle, and that's a small tube.

 

[bayouace]

2-1/8-inch Woodruff Gun | steencannons

James Woodruff was a prominent citizen of Quincy, Illonois, whose business interests included real estate and the Woodruff and Hayes Carriage Co. He found time to serve as a member of the delegation to Washington to suggest Quincy as a good location for a proposed national arsenal. His invention...

www.steencannons.com

Dunno how accurate, but the repro Woodruff is sold here.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

2-1/8-inch Woodruff Gun | steencannons

James Woodruff was a prominent citizen of Quincy, Illonois, whose business interests included real estate and the Woodruff and Hayes Carriage Co. He found time to serve as a member of the delegation to Washington to suggest Quincy as a good location for a proposed national arsenal. His invention...

www.steencannons.com

Dunno how accurate, but the repro Woodruff is sold here.

Yup, and several years ago when they still listed prices it ran $5300, and there's still question marks whether or not their still in business since Mr. Steen passed, but evidence points that way.

Besides, that takes the fun of researching, learning, carving, casting, and making it yourself out of getting one. Also the savings.

 

[bayouace]

Yup, and several years ago when they still listed prices it ran $5300, and there's still question marks whether or not their still in business since Mr. Steen passed, but evidence points that way.

Besides, that takes the fun of researching, learning, carving, casting, and making it yourself out of getting one. Also the savings.

Absolutely agree.

 

[Old Wire Road]

Original Woodruff Carriage. 2022

 

[Old Wire Road]

I might be able to get a pic of one of the he tubes sometime, the one at old Fort Madison

Woodruff tube being 3D scanned.

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

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Original Woodruff Carriage. 2022

View attachment 443254Woodruff tube being 3D scanned.

What an interesting project I see.

 

[DrBoom]

Steen Cannons manufactured a replica Woodruff gun for the Battle of Pilot Knob State Historic Site in southeast Missouri in 2009-2010. At the time, while the dimensions of the Woodruff tube were fairly well established, we didn't know what a Woodruff carriage looked like, so we guessed, and we guessed wrong, as we discovered when in 2013 the 1864 Helena photo [posted in this thread by Rusk County Avengers] was identified as a Woodruff. The Pilot Knob replica has been mounted on a scaled-up First Model Prairie Carriage, reproportioned to the four-foot wheels Woodruff specified in his proposal. They have recently received a new carriage based on the Helena photo, other photos from Fort D in Cape Girardeau, MO, and the remains of the only known original Woodruff carriage privately owned in southwest Missouri. It will debut at the site in late April 2024. As Steen Cannons has ceased to exist, my replica carriage, the restoration of the original carriage, and the new Pilot Knob replica carriage were all constructed by Steve Cameron of Trail Rock Ordnance.

My Woodruff gun research, which includes the story of the carriage replica, can be found at:

The Woodruff Gun by Dr. John Margreiter, reprinted from Civil War Times Illustrated (with permission). Newly revised and expanded. Includes new photos, new annotations, and recent research.

https://turnerbrigade.org/history/woodruff23/

and

Researching the Woodruff Carriage by Randy Baehr. The quest to create an authentic Woodruff carriage and the recent discoveries that made this possible.
https://turnerbrigade.org/history/carriage23/

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

Steen Cannons manufactured a replica Woodruff gun for the Battle of Pilot Knob State Historic Site in southeast Missouri in 2009-2010. At the time, while the dimensions of the Woodruff tube were fairly well established, we didn't know what a Woodruff carriage looked like, so we guessed, and we guessed wrong, as we discovered when in 2013 the 1864 Helena photo [posted in this thread by Rusk County Avengers] was identified as a Woodruff. The Pilot Knob replica has been mounted on a scaled-up First Model Prairie Carriage, reproportioned to the four-foot wheels Woodruff specified in his proposal. They have recently received a new carriage based on the Helena photo, other photos from Fort D in Cape Girardeau, MO, and the remains of the only known original Woodruff carriage privately owned in southwest Missouri. It will debut at the site in late April 2024. As Steen Cannons has ceased to exist, my replica carriage, the restoration of the original carriage, and the new Pilot Knob replica carriage were all constructed by Steve Cameron of Trail Rock Ordnance.

My Woodruff gun research, which includes the story of the carriage replica, can be found at:

The Woodruff Gun by Dr. John Margreiter, reprinted from Civil War Times Illustrated (with permission). Newly revised and expanded. Includes new photos, new annotations, and recent research.

https://turnerbrigade.org/history/woodruff23/

and

Researching the Woodruff Carriage by Randy Baehr. The quest to create an authentic Woodruff carriage and the recent discoveries that made this possible.
https://turnerbrigade.org/history/carriage23/

It's taken me awhile to come back and read all this new excellent research, (always busy), but very good read and glad to have seen an article on the original carriage.

I really want to personally examine one of those interesting Yank guns now.

 

[archieclement]

It's taken me awhile to come back and read all this new excellent research, (always busy), but very good read and glad to have seen an article on the original carriage.

I really want to personally examine one of those interesting Yank guns now.

I still will try to measure take pics if I ever get up to Fort Madison again.

The weather isn't conducive to day trips lately.......

 

[Rusk County Avengers]

I still will try to measure take pics if I ever get up to Fort Madison again.

The weather isn't conducive to day trips lately.......

Ain't been too conductive down here lately either. I'd appreciate it.

I might not be much of a fan of Yank wonder weapon stuff, but always having an affinity for Grierson's Raid in Mississippi, and them having those guns, yeah I'd like to know all I can.

Heck I know machinists, it's iron, I want one!