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I think that each person thought that his/her God was on his/her side, because it was the "right" one. Unless they thought that they were fighting for the "wrong" side, which I find hard to believe...
I'm curious; could you explain a bit? I picture northern Irish Catholics enlisting without religious qualms, unlike say Quakers. Was there a northern Catholic anti-war movement? Did it align with the Peace Democrats or was it on separate principles?For Catholics in the North, God was on the side of peace, which means God lost.
If you look at the months leading up to war, Catholic churches were praying for the avoidance of war. Unlike Protestant denominations, which had split into Northern and Southern denominations (Baptists, Methodists, etc.) Catholics remained a united church. Catholic lay leaders tended to decry both abolitionists and fire eaters as equally dangerous and sinful.I'm curious; could you explain a bit? I picture northern Irish Catholics enlisting without religious qualms, unlike say Quakers. Was there a northern Catholic anti-war movement? Did it align with the Peace Democrats or was it on separate principles?
I'm always a bit nervous when someone claim God is speaking to them.I'm going to be checking this thread. I suggest that unless God speaks to you on a regular basis, that we try to frame this as how the people of the Civil War saw these issues.
I'm interested in postwar southern views, reconciling the loss with the former belief that God was on their side. Here's another sort of along that line.
From DeBow's Review at https://books.google.com/books?id=0as5AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA267
"When I complained, in a conversation with you [O.O. Howard], that you had suddenly, without looking to consequences, liberated 4,000,000 of negroes, and instead of shouldering the burden yourselves, now call
upon us in the bankrupt, devastated condition of the South, to educate them and provide for the thousands of colored people that you have pauperized—you replied that all this was the ' work of God!' Now, General, I must very respectfully differ from you on this point. I cannot consent to hold God responsible for what we conceive to be the bad acts of any political or religious party... We must therefore, wait for better fruits before we can accept your mission as a Divine one."
God is always on the winning side. Didn't you know that?
"Our president and many of our generals really and actually believed that there was this mysterious Providence always hovering over the field and ready to interfere on one side or the other, and that prayers and piety might win its favor from day to day."
Confederate artillerist Edward Porter Alexander
I can't think of any nation that went to war without thinking "God's on our side", with the possible exception of the Nazi's.It wasn't so much whether or not God was on your side so much as whether or not you were on God's.
or perhaps on the side of the best shots !"God is always on the side of the larger battalions," is I think the original quote. Napoleon Bonaparte?
I had a history teacher in high school that settled this question.
"God is on the side with the most men and the most guns."
God is on the same side with most artillery pieces.
Sounds good to me!If that were always the case, there would be no United States, but perhaps there would be the 'Protectorate of America' within the British Empire.
