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[Drew]

Welcome to CivilWarTalk, 1861. War Horse has given you good advice, take it.

 

[1861]

Really. I find that unbelievable. What media commentators would these be?

I'm sorry, I'm just upset by some article (from your country) I saw 2 hours ago calling Robert E. Lee "a terrorist". Something's deeply wrong when a guy from the other side of the globe (*me) has a clearer perspective. But the same thing is happening here too, for years now. I used to think if things get worse here, I can always try to emigrate to the South of the USA. Now I think about New Zealand

 

[War Horse]

I'm sorry, I'm just upset by some article (from your country) I saw 2 hours ago calling Robert E. Lee "a terrorist". Something's deeply wrong when a guy from the other side of the globe (*me) has a clearer perspective. But the same thing is happening here too, for years now. I used to think if thing get worse here, I can always try to emigrate to the South of the USA. Now I think about New Zealand

Never confuse American media with truth or reliable literature. . It's quite the opposite.

 

[1861]

I don't confuse ANY media with truth. I stopped watching TV and reading newspapers some 15 years ago. I read books and serious articles and I directly talk to people with first-hand knowledge.
I know exactly how you feel because here we are going through very similar hell for years now.

IN TIMES OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH BECOMES A REVOLUTIONARY ACT. (George Orwell)

 

[1861]

Hey again.
I didn't get any recommendation which of 3 books about A.P. Hill to order. I didn't want to wait any more, so today I ordered my first ever book related to American Civil War:

(I have 2 books about revolvers, pistols and muskets of that era, but I wouldn't call them "Civil War" books, although they are somewhat related. The fact that this will be my first BOOK about Civil War doesn't mean that I now know nothing yet about it. I've spent hundreds of hours reading detailed articles, like this monumental research about just one tiny and historicaly insignificant moment: http://www.jamescgroves.com/henry/summary.htm After reading all that, I know more about that moment than the official tour-guides at Gettysburg, who still present it totally wrong.)

So, this is the first book ever written about A.P. Hill.
I bought it on Amazon, from the USA. It's used, but the description says LIKE NEW. And it's hardcover. Nevertheless, I sent a message asking them to be sure to send me a hardcover edition in "like new" condition.
The next one will be about Longstreet by Sorrel.

A.P. Hill's death was so unnecessary, tragic really, it could have easily been avoided. But then again - he said he had no desire to live to see the collapse of the Confederacy. So perhaps his death simply just had to happen there and then. God bless him.

 

[FarawayFriend]

Welcome to CivilWarTalk and glad another European joined.
I found that we here in Europe were taught a pretty blurred image of the Civil War, some kind of coarse black and white sketch. It was by far not as simple as my history teachers told me, that is what I have already learned since joining here.

Thank you, probably will start with Sorrel for the first-hand experience on Longstreet.

We share the sympathy for Longstreet and that book by Sorrel is on my reading list, too. Having just finished the Longstreet biography by Jeffry Wert @War Horse has recommended to you, I found that Wert has quoted from Sorrel pretty much and so I want to read that one, too. Wert has also quoted from Piston's book "Lee's tarnished Lieutenant" a lot. He does not agree with Piston over a couple of things, but nevertheless quotes him a lot, so I think I will have to read that book too.

As for electronic copies: I think it's a blessing that sites like www.archive.org provide access to rare books that are long out of print. Whenever I look on archive.org I feel like a kid in a toy store and want to just sit and read all these forgotten books! I could never afford to buy them all even if I knew where to get them, so electronic copies are very helpful. And with a proper Ebook reader you'll soon forget that you don't hold a paper copy in hand.

Good luck with your reading, good to have you with us, and I hope you will participate in the forums and discuss your thoughts with us!

 

[1861]

Frau FarawayFriend from Hannover danke schön!
Wonderful to see someone else from Europe is here.

 

[nitrofd]

Frau FarawayFriend from Hannover danke schön!
Wonderful to see someone else from Europe is here.

If you check out the "Random Thoughts Thread"there are a lot of Europeans that hangout there.

 

[1861]

Of course, they had sent me the wrong book...

 

[Patrick H]

Hi and welcome from Missouri.

 

[1861]

Hi and welcome from Missouri.

I love "Kelly's Missouri Irish Brigade" song by Derek Warfield

 

[Boonslick]

What? No Western Theater! No Guerrillas!

 

[Patrick H]

I'm not well read on the war in the East, nor about the generals involved there. I'm much more interested in the war that happened all around where I live in Missouri. A lot of that war was guerrilla warfare and it was ruthless. There are numerous memoirs available free online.

You can see that my friend, Boonslick, (just above) thinks you should know that our Missouri conflict, too.

 

[NathanTowne]

Hey,

I haven't used the Hassler book on A.P. Hill, although it is often cited. I have Robertson on A.P. Hill and I read it cover it to cover back in 2011. It is fine, but I would have liked more detail.

As for Jackson, on top of Robertson (as War Horse already told you about), I would really recommend that you see whether or not you can find a used copy on Amazon of G.F.R. Henderson. It is a classic and it has been very influential. It is definitely worth getting a copy of if you can get it cheap, which you should be able to do.

As for Longstreet, I own Wert. It is very solid. Of course, you can also get his memoirs.

Avoid all of the Lost Cause stuff at the bottom.

 

[1861]

Thanks Nathan... I don't embrace the derogatory term "Lost Cause" and I'll make up my own mind what is lost and what is not. In 100 years the Union / United States could be a lost cause, and Confederacy or Greater Mexico or any other option could be a reality.

 

[NathanTowne]

Thanks Nathan... I don't embrace the derogatory term "Lost Cause" and I'll make up my own mind what is lost and what is not. In 100 years the Union / United States could be a lost cause, and Confederacy or Greater Mexico or any other option could be a reality.

Fair enough. I am simply trying to help. Hopefully I was able to do that.