What would you save?

Excellent ideas! I like your idea of helping museums. They obviously need it. And I too like seeing more actual artifacts. I don't like all the touch screens and storyboards either; although I do like that they can grab the interest of younger generations. My guess is that artifacts are rendered worthless if no one is interested in them! However, I agree that museums should do a better job of displaying actual artifacts. I thought that the new Monocacy Visitor Center had a good balance.

I especially like your idea about assisting with structure renewal and reconstruction. I have been happy that the Cedar Creek Battlefield Foundation is still slowing restoring and preserving he little white "Heater" house on the battlefield. The structure was there at the time of the battle and the Heater family actually had sons in the 7th VA Cavalry that was at the battle. Of course, the work being done at Belle Grove is wonderful. The Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Foundation is preserving the Winchester Court House and has turned it into a fine museum. The NPS is working on structures like The Thomas and Worthington houses at Monocacy and the Shirley House at Vicksburg. The Battlefield Trust was able to retain the "widow Thompson" house at Gettysburg that was Lee's Headquarters during the battle. We need more of that!

Great ideas
Too often battle field additions seem empty fields/woods along periphery that most will never utilize. There's a very small percentage of visitors who want to walk every site/acre.

Think improving museums or historic structures that could be toured would benifit more visitors. I've said before at some point enough is enough of a battlefield preserved, though there's some who will want more.......that said, that doesn't mean the existing enough couldn't be improved, museum/vc improved, structures restored, even in some cases perhaps recreated.
 
While we all might have preferences, a billion dollars is a sizable amount of money. $500 million for the purchase of battlefield land, and $500 million for museums, virtual tour, visitor centers and the preservation of historical buildings would go a long way in helping to preserve our history. Keep in mind out of the battlefields will always be less visited.

The French and Indian Wars and the Revolutionary War battlefield land have been mentioned in this thread. Should we also consider historically significant Indian Wars battlefield sites?
 
I would pour my fathomless wealth 😊 into establishing some sort of military park in the towns of Calais, Maine and St. Albans, Vermont; both towns suffered from Confederate raids coming from Canada. With the understandable emphasis on the great battles and war heroes in the South, the geographical extent of the ACW has been forgotten as well as the incredible bravery of ordinary citizens who (believing that the aggression had come from their south) thought that they were all that was left of the Union.
 
Definitely.

Lighthouses have the advantage that the federal the government bought the property for the light station, as opposed to battlefields that were almost always private land when the battle took place.

On the other hand, a preserved battlefield is hundreds or thousands of acres. Light stations are rarely more than 10 acres, and often only 3-5. Assuming everything except the tower hasn't been sold off.

If anyone visits Atlantic City go to the Absecon Lighthouse and look how it's practically surrounded by skyscrapers due to the city's growth a half-century after the lighthouse's construction.

Access to lighthouses is sometimes restricted by adjacent residential neighborhoods who often resent tourist traffic. Others end up surrounded by 20th century military bases.

Light stations were designed for 1-4 resident families. Usually additional property has to be acquired for parking.

American battlefields are at least usually accessible. Some are still out of the way, like Shiloh, but you can drive to nearly all of them. Many lighthouses are on small islands or out in the body of water itself. They're hard to visit, to say nothing of the difficulty restoring and maintaining them.
Thank you for the information. I have often wondered about Light House preservation. In Rochester, NY I know that the Charlotte-Genesee Light is some blocks off of the Lake. I don't know if that is meant to be or not? And they had to pick up and move the classic Cape Hatteras Lighthouse. I believe it was because of beach erosion. That has to be a common problem, especially with the increase in Nor'easter's and Hurricanes.

Growing up in Maryland I have an affinity for the round house-like lights we have on the Chesapeake Bay. Of course, I have visited the 1855 Seven Foot Knoll "screw-pile" Lighthouse that was brought into the Inner Harbor for display, however, the Thomas Point Light is the classic one to me.

Thanks again.
 
You must see this with Lighthouses as well. I have visited the Currituck Beach Lighthouse on the Outer Banks of NC and I know that the Corolla village area is growing and expanding as a tourist location and is encroaching on the light. It could end up being the centerpiece of a housing development! I assume this is going on all up and down the East Coast and around the Great Lakes too?
You're right: they attract visitors without impeding on modern development. Lighthouses in general are awe-inspiring. We have many in Maine--a significant number of which are active.
 
I have often wondered about Light House preservation. In Rochester, NY I know that the Charlotte-Genesee Light is some blocks off of the Lake. I don't know if that is meant to be or not? And they had to pick up and move the classic Cape Hatteras Lighthouse. I believe it was because of beach erosion. That has to be a common problem, especially with the increase in Nor'easter's and Hurricanes.

Charlotte-Genesee might have been a case of the shoreline being built out deliberately. There are some lighthouses, like Pensacola and Jupiter, that were deliberately built back from the ocean, but on elevated land.

Erosion is a big problem for some. Montauk has been threatened by cliff erosion, and a few others have been moved back like Hatteras.

Hurricanes have wiped some out, both in the past and during the last half-century.

The Charleston petties were a boon to navigation but destroyed Morris Island. Battery Wagner washed away and Morris Island Lighthouse went from the middle of the island to the middle of a sandbar.

Lighthouse preservation is a lot less "one size fits all" than battlefields. Most battlefields are NPS, and most of the rest are state parks (or equivalent). They are essentially just a form of land management. Lighthouses are historical structures built feom a variety of materials, frequently exposed to harsh conditions, perpetually in need of specialized upkeep. There is a wide variety of ownership situations through many different federal, state, and local entities plus some private ownership and an increasing number of nonprofit owners (and even the types of nonprofit organization ownership varies). In many cases there are public-private partnerships through leases and other agreements.

they attract visitors without impeding on modern development.

Battlefields impede development.
Development impedes lighthouses.

Lighthouses in general are awe-inspiring.

Indeed.

The challenge is not making people care about lighthouses, but rather making them realize lighthouses have history and that most of them are no longer paid for with tax dollars. They are more than just pretty things to look at.
 
If money was no object - say you won that billion-dollar lotto - which battlefields, or parts of battlefields would you try to preserve and why?

I have to admit that my preservation concerns are fairly selfish in that they generally revolve around the battlefields my ancestors fought on. Luckily much of that has already been preserved. So that is fantastic.

1. At the top of my list would be Cedar Creek. Like I said, luckily much of that has been preserved. However, I am very concerned about the "Red Hill" property, some other Middletown properties and any property around the Cupp's Mill site on the far side of the battlefield. The Red Hill property is the land that rises just west of the Belle Grove Plantation. It is between Belle Grove and the quarry. If you took the road that runs from Rt 11 back past Belle Grove (Rt 727) and pass Belle Grove you will drop down into the Meadow Brook valley and at the intersection with Rt 624 (Meadow Mills RD) you will see the little Meadow Mills church on your left. The land in front of you rises to become Red Hill. If you continued forward you would come to a rail line and the little bridge over Meadow Brook and see a farm ahead.

The land you are looking toward (west) is where the Union 6th Corps camped. Gordon's and Kershaw's Divisions would have driven through the Union 8th and 19th Corps behind you and would now press the Third Division of the 6th Corps and regrouped 19th Corps straight up the hill in front of you and from your left. My great grandfather was in the 87th PA up along that ridge line with the rest of Emerson's 1st Brigade of that Third Division. They would ever so slowly be driven north, to your right as you look at the farm and hill in front of you.

If you returned to the intersection with Rt 624 and headed north on that road, the ridge of Red Hill is on your left and that is where Frank Wheaton's First Division of the 6th Corps was making it's stand. Follow Meadow Mills Road to McCune Rd (Rt 757) and turn left toward the stone quarry. About halfway to the quarry you can pull off and if you look to the left (south) you get a wonderful vantage of where the 6th Corps camped and fought. If you turn and look north you will see where the First and Third Divisions would have retreated.

If there was any way to preserve Red Hill, all the land between Meadow Brook and the quarry... I would do it. I would pay the landowners and tell them they and their descendants could continue living there - just as long as it never gets sold to the quarry or some developer! That is such key land at the heart of the battle. And it isn't preserved yet!!!

I would love to see more land around the town's Mt Carmel Cemetery is Preserved. That is where Getty's 2nd Division of the 6th Corps made it's stand. The important Miller Farm property was just preserved and is being interpreted by the Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Foundation (SVBF). They are also in the process of preserving an important wood lot adjacent to the Miller property.

The Miller house is on Cougill Rd which runs east and west. The Confederate line of battle ran along that road facing north. To the north, the regrouped Union line ran essentially east and west along Klines Mill Road (Rt 633) and faced south. Around 4:00 PM the Union Counterattack began and crossed the fields between the two roads. Again, this is where the 87th PA fought, and Daniel Reigle of that Regiment won his Medal of Honor there. If there was any way to keep those fields out of developer's hands...I would love to see it happen.

The other site at Cedar Creek I would love to preserve is a few miles to the west on the far side of the quarry. It is tricky to find. From the Miller farm return to west 1st street at the center of Middletown and head west. It becomes Chapel Road (Rt 627) That road winds around twisting and turning for about four miles to the Hites Chapel Methodist church. This is the area where Union Cavalry were camped. A little less than a mile farther down the road you will find the dead-end Chapel Lane to the right (still considered Rt 627). At the end of the lane is (well it was there the last time I was there in 2014) the remains of Cupps Mill on the banks of Cedar Creek. This is where Tom Rosser splashed across the Creek with his Division of Cavalry including his Laurel Brigade. The Confederates fought their way up this lane and fighting continued all the way up to Hites Chapel.

My great, great grandfather and his older brother were in the 7th VA Cavalry of the Laurel Brigade fighting here. My great, great grandfather was severely wounded in the leg here. He survived. So, you can imagine why i want to preserve as much of this land as possible!

So, these lands at Cedar Creek are on the top of my list. The quarry scares me, and we have already lost much of Middletown to development. These are highly threatened lands, so I rank them high.

There are other lands i think are threatened and would preserve them if I could!

2. Lands around Winchester. (important family battles; my mother's ancestor captured my father's ancestor...etc)
3. Lands around Brandy Station. (It was the largest Cavalry battle on US soil and is too close to DC for comfort!)
4. Lands around South Mt and Antietam (I'm from Maryland, what can I say??? LOL...the same with...)
5. Lands around Monocacy. (and it was a huge battle for the 87th PA who charged the Thomas House Lane with the 14th NJ)

Luckily much has been preserved. I am pleased that so many important battlefields are preserved, and we can visit them, hike them and better understand what happened there.

I understand we can't preserve them all...however, there is so much land that isn't hallowed that could be developed if they have to. Why do they have to develop hallowed ground? I guess the answer is easy - $$$$

So. what would you like to see preserved and why?
There is a corridor of mostly forgotten battlefields here in East Tennessee that I would buy and donate to ABT or NPS. Red Banks, Telford Station, Limestone Station, Rheatown, Blue Springs, and many more. These sites are as important to the war as any of the big battlefields that get all the funds and attention. As it is, they are my "private" sanctuaries and I visit regularly, no crowds and as a result, no preservation dollars, but important, nonetheless.
 
There is a corridor of mostly forgotten battlefields here in East Tennessee that I would buy and donate to ABT or NPS. Red Banks, Telford Station, Limestone Station, Rheatown, Blue Springs, and many more. These sites are as important to the war as any of the big battlefields that get all the funds and attention. As it is, they are my "private" sanctuaries and I visit regularly, no crowds and as a result, no preservation dollars, but important, nonetheless.
Yours is a wonderful sentiment! I too think the smaller, lesser known, usually out of the way sites are important and deserve recognition. It would feel great to be able to preserve those sites and deed them to the ABT and/or the NPS. Just to rest assured that they would remain the peaceful, hallowed places that you describe would be such a good feeling. Hopefully they remain so as it is. It must be great to have places like that to go and just feel peaceful!
 
Not Civil War, but outside of Salem, NY, a bunch of American soldiers killed at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777 are buried. There bodies were taken from the battlefield, and we're being taken to their hometown. It was late summer, and decomposition was taking it's toll. The wagoners could not go any further and they were buried near the closest cemetery. As a reenactor, we did a grave ceremony their every Memorial Day. There is a marker for them, but the actual location of the burials is lost. A farmers field surrounds the entire cemetery. If money wasn't an issue, I'd find those men, put up a better memorial, and bring their cause and sacrifice to people's attention. I'll never be able to do it, but since the first time I set foot there, it's always been the one thing I would do if I was rich!
 

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