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[damYankee]

I'm not sure anybody who hasn't been around LDS folks understands how at least most of them feel about FLDS. That's true of any organized religion that has an unhinged extremist faction.

Anytime I see the word "Fundamental" or "Fundamentalism" or "Fundamentalist" I run for the hills!

 

[Josh The Lighthouse Guy]

When I was younger, I found amusement in the stupid and crazy.

At some point I realized that stupid and crazy was contagious and spreading beyond the internet. Then it stopped being funny.

 

[Josh The Lighthouse Guy]

Anytime I see the word "Fundamental" or "Fundamentalism" or "Fundamentalist" I run for the hills!

Fun Da Metal is the name of my favorite funk-thrash Jars of Clay cover band.

 

[Belfoured]

Fun Da Metal is the name of my favorite funk-thrash Jars of Clay cover band.

I didn't know they (J of C) were still around.

 

[Story]

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Civil War Sasquatch encounters?? | Hauntings of the Great Rebellion

Here's an interesting story of a encounter from a confederate solder being rescued from being mortally wounded. Is the story true, I do not know, but has some interesting civil war battle facts implied. Have a listen if interested, entertaining story and different from what we have heard from...

civilwartalk.com

 

[Kurtlg]

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Civil War Sasquatch encounters?? | Hauntings of the Great Rebellion

Here's an interesting story of a encounter from a confederate solder being rescued from being mortally wounded. Is the story true, I do not know, but has some interesting civil war battle facts implied. Have a listen if interested, entertaining story and different from what we have heard from...

civilwartalk.com

"Is the story true?" NO.

 

[13 IL Cav & 64 GA Inf]

Oh, that would have been something else, from socal to Utah. It was bad enough when I went from San Fran to Iowa. FLDS is another realm.

My elderly aunt is a member of the regular LDS Church. I had to look up FLDS to find that it is Fundamentalist. Guess that means that a man with 13 wives is just fine, and probably has other strange beliefs, as well.

 

[Belfoured]

My elderly aunt is a member of the regular LDS Church. I had to look up FLDS to find that it is Fundamentalist. Guess that means that a man with 13 wives is just fine, and probably has other strange beliefs, as well.

They still believe in celestial marriage and blood atonement - abandoned by the mainstream church well over a century ago. And that's only the tip of the iceberg with these jokers.

 

[13 IL Cav & 64 GA Inf]

My elderly aunt is a member of the regular LDS Church. I had to look up FLDS to find that it is Fundamentalist. Guess that means that a man with 13 wives is just fine, and probably has other strange beliefs, as well.

When on a vacation, my wife and I stopped at the winter home of Brigham Young at St. George, Utah, when passing through. A church elder gave us a tour (we were the only two visitors, so we got a private tour) which was fairly interesting. If I recall, Brigham Young had one wife who lived year-round at the winter home, even when he was away at his main home and other places with other wives. At the end of the tour, the elder gave me a copy of the Book of Mormon. After we returned home to Florida I actually read the whole book.
My opinion of the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints is that they have some strange beliefs, but that they are for the most part really good people.

 

[Belfoured]

When on a vacation, my wife and I stopped at the winter home of Brigham Young at St. George, Utah, when passing through. A church elder gave us a tour (we were the only two visitors, so we got a private tour) which was fairly interesting. If I recall, Brigham Young had one wife who lived year-round at the winter home, even when he was away at his main home and other places with other wives. At the end of the tour, the elder gave me a copy of the Book of Mormon. After we returned home to Florida I actually read the whole book.
My opinion of the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints is that they have some strange beliefs, but that they are for the most part really good people.

If you had a 2 hour layover at the SLC airport they used to have a free shuttle and you could tour the places open to the public at the Temple. I have a climbing buddy who has read the entire book a few times and who I had to listen to while he politely debated the two nice ladies who ran Tracey's General Store in Almo, ID (which carried basic items you could get during a climbing trip to the City of Rocks National Reserve). It was interesting and totally civil but they weren't moving from the doctrine.

 

[CWdiaryPA]

My elderly aunt is a member of the regular LDS Church. I had to look up FLDS to find that it is Fundamentalist. Guess that means that a man with 13 wives is just fine, and probably has other strange beliefs, as well.

Yeah, it's a whole other world. All I need to do is drive south, voila. Serious Deliverance country.

 

[rebelatsea]

When I lived in London (UK) we used to get all sorts of "faiths" calling at the door or stopping you in the street. they always got polite (except once and that's another story)) short shrift from me. However on a train going up to York I had two young Mormons sitting opposite, with whom I had a very intelligent and pleasant conversation - they didn't convert me but it wiled away an hour and forty minutes, and they bought me coffee! We parted friends, wherever you are now I wish you well.

 

[Kurtlg]

When I lived in London (UK) we used to get all sorts of "faiths" calling at the door or stopping you in the street. they always got polite (except once and that's another story)) short shrift from me. However on a train going up to York I had two young Mormons sitting opposite, with whom I had a very intelligent and pleasant conversation - they didn't convert me but it wiled away an hour and forty minutes, and they bought me coffee! We parted friends, wherever you are now I wish you well.

Odd since they usually do not drink things with caffeine themselves. As a youngster we had neighbors of that faith and they were very nice and very helpful yet never pushed their views on others.

 

[archieclement]

When on a vacation, my wife and I stopped at the winter home of Brigham Young at St. George, Utah, when passing through. A church elder gave us a tour (we were the only two visitors, so we got a private tour) which was fairly interesting. If I recall, Brigham Young had one wife who lived year-round at the winter home, even when he was away at his main home and other places with other wives. At the end of the tour, the elder gave me a copy of the Book of Mormon. After we returned home to Florida I actually read the whole book.
My opinion of the members of the Church of the Latter Day Saints is that they have some strange beliefs, but that they are for the most part really good people.

Wow read the whole book? I don't think I went more then a couple pages.....

I found the whole concept of a magic rock in a hat more interesting.

 

[damYankee]

A fascinating book I highly recommend is The Ferry Woman, a novel of the Mountain Meadows Massacre by Gerald Grimmett

a critically acclaimed account of John D. Lee and his relationship with his fictional wife, Emeline, who stays loyal to him up to the day of his execution.
Selected as Best Book of the Year by the Salt Lake Tribune, runner-up in the Utah Center for the Book competition, The Ferry Woman is a fictional account of the tragedy at the Mountain Meadows where 127 unarmed men, women, and children of the Fancher-Baker wagon train were brutally slain and left as feed for the wolves.

Gerald was a wonderful writer and this was a great read.

 

[archieclement]

I did see a example of a modern secession movement today in news.......but southern Illinois to Indiana

So guess can say southern

 

[Belfoured]

A fascinating book I highly recommend is The Ferry Woman, a novel of the Mountain Meadows Massacre by Gerald Grimmett

Gerald was a wonderful writer and this was a great read.

John Lee is a good example of somebody who was loyal to the "powers that be" but was ditched by them when he became politically "inconvenient".

 

[damYankee]

John Lee is a good example of somebody who was loyal to the "powers that be" but was ditched by them when he became politically "inconvenient".

One has to understand that at that time, every member of the faith belonged to the prophet and in the various fundamentalist off shoots they still do, your wife and children belong to the church as does your property, they can be taken from you and given to another man.
And your life?
There are a few rules that if violated, the violator can be disposed of without trial, on the word of the prophet and on the spot.
If I wrote about what I became aware of in my time living in Utah I would fear for my life, I am as serious as a heart attack.

 

[Belfoured]

One has to understand that at that time, every member of the faith belonged to the prophet and in the various fundamentalist off shoots they still do, your wife and children belong to the church as does your property, they can be taken from you and given to another man.
And your life?
There are a few rules that if violated, the violator can be disposed of without trial, on the word of the prophet and on the spot.
If I wrote about what I became aware of in my time living in Utah I would fear for my life, I am as serious as a heart attack.

Agree re the Fundies. The whole Mountain Meadows/John Lee matter was a consequence of the extreme paranoia (somewhat understandable) and isolation mentality that resulted from what happened in Nauvoo and Young's response. The paranoia went off the rails in 1857 and then got wrapped up in the coverup until the Church began focusing on the possibility of statehood for "Deseret". At that point Lee became "expendable" in exchange for a larger return.

 

[TallTallMan]

A fascinating book I highly recommend is The Ferry Woman, a novel of the Mountain Meadows Massacre by Gerald Grimmett

Gerald was a wonderful writer and this was a great read.

Thanks for the recommendation!