Unknown Uniform. CW? Help?

[obal7]

Along with some Buttons, a Belt and hat Pin (Suspected CW, Previously posted "obal7"), this white uniform was also in the box. Nothing is known about this uniform and hat with number 434. Some, say it may be a train Conductors uniform for the number on the hat and a small "Conductor" button.
Any help identifying this uniform would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

 

[major bill]

"Conductor" on the button? Dayton RR =railroad?

 

[1867crete]

Definitely post war but pre ww1. I've seen the pattern on spam am era images. Perhaps band? Or railroad. I'm kinda leaning away from a military issue? Just my opinion. gotta love 100 year old wool in that condition ! Great find none the less!!

 

[Billw12280]

Along with some Buttons, a Belt and hat Pin (Suspected CW, Previously posted "obal7"), this white uniform was also in the box. Nothing is known about this uniform and hat with number 434. Some, say it may be a train Conductors uniform for the number on the hat and a small "Conductor" button.
Any help identifying this uniform would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

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It has the look of an 1895 model Tropical Summer Undress uniform. The uniform was originally designed for fatigue duty and was made of blue wool with a mohair trim. The white Duck (canvas) material was designed for use in tropical areas. After the turn of the century the uniform began being used for dress occasions and I believe it was in use until right around WWII. The sides should unbutton to accommodate the sword hanger. I believe the trousers and hat are later and may not be an original part of the uniform. The 1895 cap would have been a pillbox style, which definitely looked like a conductors hat. I'm also unsure of the fancy braiding around the mohair edges of the blouse. This could be a musician uniform. My guess would be that the conductors button does not go with this uniform as all the buttons were designed to be hidden. A very nice example either way.

 

[Billw12280]

For comparison, here is my 1895 undress uniform.

 

[gary]

Porter uniform. Porters/stewards wore white on RR.

BTW, coworker's uncle was a Pullman Porter. It was quite a prestigious position for a black man. They ran an unofficial express system that was cheaper than an express company or the post office. You took your package to the depot and negotiated the price with the porter. He'd take it and pass it along the line. The next porter never got paid nor did the final porter who made the home delivery. Yep, the last porter would wear his uniform, walk into the neighborhood (it was safer for him to wear the uniform as everyone knew his business and didn't harass him) and deliver the package to the doorstep. It worked for years as an unrecordable source of income and not one package was lost. If that happened, the whole system would collapse.

 

[Billw12280]

It is true that porters wore white but I don't think that's what this is. I feel strongly that this is an 1895 Summer/Tropical undress uniform blouse. An example can be seen here http://www.germanmilitaria.com/OtherNations/photos/C015276.html . This link talks about railroad porters www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,1010966. It is also true that the military uniform suppliers sold to other organizations (bands, fraternals, etc) so anything is possible.

 

[obal7]

Thank you all for your input. Very interesting..

 

[1867crete]

THanks for sharing!

 

[Package4]

Along with some Buttons, a Belt and hat Pin (Suspected CW, Previously posted "obal7"), this white uniform was also in the box. Nothing is known about this uniform and hat with number 434. Some, say it may be a train Conductors uniform for the number on the hat and a small "Conductor" button.
Any help identifying this uniform would be greatly appreciated, Thanks.

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Since the button has conductor with a spoked train wheel in the center, I think it a forgone conclusion:
The Roehm-Roehm Co., Dayton, Ohio, manufacturers high grade white navy twill and duck clothing ... Dayton, Ohio : The Roehm-Roehm Company, [1927]

 

[WJC]

Definitely post war but pre ww1. I've seen the pattern on spam am era images. Perhaps band? Or railroad. I'm kinda leaning away from a military issue? Just my opinion. gotta love 100 year old wool in that condition ! Great find none the less!!

Maybe a railroad worker's band. RR funded company employee orchestras and athletic teams were very popular 'back in the day'.

 

[obal7]

Thanks for the info... very interesting..