Unknown lifting breech carbine?

[Story]

That's pretty neat. It's pretty crude like a pre pre prototype. It reminds me of a mix between a martini and a rolling block amalgamation

I'm leaning towards it being a one-off.

Time for one of us to trawl Bannermans catalog

 

[R. Porter]

Time for one of us to trawl Bannermans catalog

I looked through one several days ago and came up dry. (That was information-wise, it's hard to do anything dry during a heat wave when you only have two fans and no a/c)

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

I have owned a few Confederate firearms, and I don't have a good feeling about this carbine being Confederate. I never believe the story, but did one come with this piece?

No big story attached. I collect and had a young man in Columbus, MS contact me. The rest is history. No big build up or suspense of any kind. His family has a long military history and whenhis Aunt died he got the gun. It has been in the family since before the Aunt died in her late 80's. It was always in a closet and not displayed or thought about from what I gather. The young man's father, grand and ggdad served in military. He indicated that as far back as any of his relatives know it has been in the family possessed by different heirs. He nor the family ascribed any special provenance or tales.

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

PS- iron band- brass mixed with copper front sight.

 

[JackADriscoll]

PS- iron band- brass mixed with copper front sight.

Ok caliber or barrel measurement?

 

[Papabyrd]

I looked through one several days ago and came up dry. (That was information-wise, it's hard to do anything dry during a heat wave when you only have two fans and no a/c)

Bless you

 

[Mint Julep]

No big story attached. I collect and had a young man in Columbus, MS contact me. The rest is history. No big build up or suspense of any kind. His family has a long military history and whenhis Aunt died he got the gun. It has been in the family since before the Aunt died in her late 80's. It was always in a closet and not displayed or thought about from what I gather. The young man's father, grand and ggdad served in military. He indicated that as far back as any of his relatives know it has been in the family possessed by different heirs. He nor the family ascribed any special provenance or tales.

Thanks, it is very well made.

 

[Trooper "D"]

Briarfield Arsenal was in Columbus, Mississippi.

Hey thanks. Makes me thinks this carbine is a design that was rejected by the armory.

 

[6.5x55Swiss]

Still looking at this gun! The picture below was the hammer face when I lit up the action while looking with an endoscope. I caught this on camera. Is this something anyone has ever seen??

 

[Trooper "D"]

Still looking at this gun! The picture below was the hammer face when I lit up the action while looking with an endoscope. I caught this on camera. Is this something anyone has ever seen??
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Nope. Wait a minute. Is that 'C' shape the indentation mark from hitting the nipple?

 

[Old Soldier]

The reason why it was carbines is simply because of the fairly low power of ammunition used. The then current philosophy demanded infantry wih 'long' rifles capable of long ranges, 600+. The cavalry needed handy short range weapons (200yds) for their defence - the sword was their primary weapon. They substituted depth of fire for rate of fire and ease of loading. The power of the round was marginally greater than a pistol round mainly because the carbine was held by a single-hand in mounted action but was more accurate than a pistol, especially when dismounted.
The Brits found out the hard way when they introduced the Martini-Henry series. The long rifle was a recoil beast (still is) in .45" (45/577) yet the shorter barrel carbine was originally intended to fire the same round. After several bruised shoulders and egos, a lower powered, lighter bullet round was adopted without change to the weapon. Rifle ammunition could still be used if needed.