Unidentified Union General and Staff

[Mike Serpa]

Anyone know who he is?

Heritage Auctions photo

 

[bdtex]

I'm not a uniform expert but I don't see a star on any of those uniforms.

 

[GELongstreet]

I'm not a uniform expert but I don't see a star on any of those uniforms.

Third from left (fourth from right) is a Brigadier General - you can see the star if you watch the full-size version.

 

[GELongstreet]

Could it be our dear Provost Marshal, Marsena R. Patrick?

 

[bdtex]

Third from left (fourth from right) is a Brigadier General - you can see the star if you watch the full-size version.

Ok. Blew it up as much as I could on my desktop and couldn't say for sure that's a star on his right shoulder.

 

[Mike Serpa]

Could it be our dear Provost Marshal, Marsena R. Patrick?

Yes! That's him. Thanks, GEL. You helped me find a caption from the LOC - Gen. Marsena R. Patrick and staff Culpeper, Virginia. September 1863 #03917v

 

[Zuzah]

I was going to say, but I was a bit late, yes - I have this saved as Patrick & Staff, glad you got it sorted Mike.

 

[Mike Serpa]

I was going to say, but I was a bit late, yes - I have this saved as Patrick & Staff, glad you got it sorted Mike.

Thanks, Zuzah. I looked through more then 125 photos of Generals and Staff on my computer and couldn't find it until @GELongstreet posted. And there it was! Between Ord and Staff and Pierce and Staff.

 

[James N.]

Ok. Blew it up as much as I could on my desktop and couldn't say for sure that's a star on his right shoulder.

You don't need to look on his shoulders - he's wearing the double-breasted frock with two rows of eight buttons in pairs that was regulation for brigadier generals; major generals had two rows of nine buttons in groups of three. Colonels and below had their buttons evenly spaced.

 

[bdtex]

You don't need to look on his shoulders - he's wearing the double-breasted frock with two rows of eight buttons in pairs that was regulation for brigadier generals; major generals had two rows of nine buttons in groups of three. Colonels and below had their buttons evenly spaced.

Learning new stuff today. Don't know a lot about uniforms.

 

[bdtex]

You don't need to look on his shoulders - he's wearing the double-breasted frock with two rows of eight buttons in pairs that was regulation for brigadier generals; major generals had two rows of nine buttons in groups of three. Colonels and below had their buttons evenly spaced.

Some of them well-fed Generals musta had a helluva time with buttons.

 

[bdtex]

You don't need to look on his shoulders - he's wearing the double-breasted frock with two rows of eight buttons in pairs that was regulation for brigadier generals; major generals had two rows of nine buttons in groups of three. Colonels and below had their buttons evenly spaced.

I notice that the belt,collar and sword scabbard are different too.

 

[James N.]

I notice that the belt,collar and sword scabbard are different too.

The belt is a full-dress belt of the type that was often included in the boxes containing presentation swords which I believe he's wearing but I don't know that it particularly denotes rank. The collar, on the other hand, is of black velvet and can often be seen on generals' frock coats.

Edit: The cuffs were usually velvet too. That's definitely a non-regulation presentation sword.