Turrets

[Stiles/Akin]

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[Mark F. Jenkins]

Strictly speaking, the Keokuk is out of place on this chart; her "turrets" were in fact small stationary casemates. (She's also facing a different direction than all the rest.)

 

[TinCan]

Did not know there was a triple turret. Cool graphics.

 

[1stMS-Arty]

Don't forget the Ozark.

 

[Dilandu]

And "Marietta" (well, she wasn't ready till the end of war...)

 

[Dilandu]

And "Marietta" (well, she wasn't ready till the end of war...)

 

[bekosh]

Don't forget the Ozark.

Dang it! The Ozark was missing from the size chart I drew up too.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to upload version 2 with the Ozark added.

 

[Dilandu]

Excellent scheme!

 

[USS ALASKA]

I suppose this is as good a time as any to upload version 2 with the Ozark added.

Wow sir - excellent visual! I hate to ask but...any way to add the Union casemate ironclad Dunderberg for comparison? Or maybe the Stevens battery or the USRC Naugatuck?

Thanks again!
USS ALASKA

 

[Carronade]

Wow sir - excellent visual! I hate to ask but...any way to add the Union casemate ironclad Dunderberg for comparison? Or maybe the Stevens battery or the USRC Naugatuck?

Thanks again!
USS ALASKA

Dunderberg appears as the French Rochambeau. She wasn't completed until after the war, the US Navy had little need for her, so she was sold.

 

[USS ALASKA]

Dunderberg appears as the French Rochambeau.

Yeap - I'm an idiot. Completely forgot that...

USS ALASKA

 

[Carronade]

I had not known that Ozark and the Milwaukee class had those flat sterns, presumably to accommodate the four propellors. Four relatively small props seems a clever way to get sufficient propulsive power in shallow-draft ships.

 

[1stMS-Arty]

I had not known that Ozark and the Milwaukee class had those flat sterns, presumably to accommodate the four propellors. Four relatively small props seems a clever way to get sufficient propulsive power in shallow-draft ships.

Interesting point......here is another photo with a view of the stern.

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

It worked better in the Milwaukees than in Ozark, which had a notoriously voracious appetite for coal...

One tidbit about Ozark-- the original concept for her included an underwater gun. But they couldn't solve the associated problems, so she wasn't fitted with it.

 

[USS ALASKA]

It worked better in the Milwaukees than in Ozark, which had a notoriously voracious appetite for coal...

Was that because of the different power set up between the two?

Cheers,
USS ALASKA

 

[bekosh]

I looked at the Stevens Battery but since it was never completed and there are at least 3 different designs the information is contradictory and I have no idea what to make of her.

The Naugatuck (E.A. Stevens) is quite a little thing. Reminds me of the later Flat-iron Gunboats that the British built with the oversized gun fixed forward and light armor. Probably not much good for anything more than harbor defense if that.

I did find a couple of interesting pdfs on the Coast Guard History website.
The United States Revenue Cutters in the Civil War
Revenue Cutter Service Gunboat E. A. Stevens: The Stevens Family's Civil War Experiment in Modern Naval Technology

Here is the update with the Naugatuck (E.A. Stevens).

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

With the asterisk that the Naugatuck was not an 'ironclad' in the proper sense of the word. (I don't recall if she in fact had any armor at all; if so, not much. She was a weird little duck.)

 

[USS ALASKA]

(I don't recall if she in fact had any armor at all; if so, not much. She was a weird little duck.)

"While its hull boasted all-iron construction, its only armor consisted of a low-lying angled armor band or skirt surrounding the main deck..."

Cheers,
USS ALASKA

 

[1stMS-Arty]

Strictly speaking, the Keokuk is out of place on this chart; her "turrets" were in fact small stationary casemates. (She's also facing a different direction than all the rest.)

maybe...maybe not. The word 'turret' in 19th century naval circles probably just meant an armored position with somewhat of a circular shape....

It might be out of place if the title of the OP was "Revolving Ericcson type turrets".

 

[Mark F. Jenkins]

Perhaps, but it's still a Sesame Street "one of these things is not like the others" situation.