Trying to decipher some muster rolls

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I'm trying to nail down my wife's gg grandfather's service in the Union Army, and some of the comments on the Muster Rolls (attached) escape me. Here are the questions I'd appreciate some help with:
1. His Muster Out date is Oct. 6, 1863. I'm trying to figure out why he was discharged in the middle of the war.
2. "Discharged for the good of the service and not entitled to Bounty." I don't know what that means, but it sounds ominous.
3. March & April, 1863 "In arrest Fort No. 8, St. Louis". Am I reading that correctly? Was he arrested?
4. I have not been able to locate a "Fort No. 8, St. Louis"
5. If he was under arrest, where might I go to find out what the charges were?
This is sort of a grab bag of questions and I apologize for just throwing it out there. I'd appreciate any help you can offer.
Chuck
 

Attachments

The key seems to be finding General Order Nos. 219 (August 13, 1863) and 256 (September 19, 1863) of the Department of the Missouri. Someone may know a source for those.
 
4. I have not been able to locate a "Fort No. 8, St. Louis"

Civil War St. Louis
(1861 - 1865), St. Louis
A system of ten Union earthen forts surrounded the city.
Fort Number One (three guns) a trilateral work about 400 feet to each side, located on Chippewa Street. The U.S. Marine Hospital was later built on the site.
Fort Number Two (four guns) a quadrilateral work about 400 feet long, located near Cherokee Street and Lemp Ave..
Fort Number Three was a cruciform-shaped redoubt about 600 feet long, located on Sydney Street near McNair Ave., north of Salena and Lynch Streets in the Benton Park area. It still existed into the 1870's.
Fort Number Four about 500 feet long, located south of Russell Ave. and east of Jefferson Ave..
Fort Number Five (four guns) a quadrilateral work about 400 feet to each side, located between Whittemore Place and Missouri Ave., west of Lafayette Park.
Fort Number Six (four guns) a square work located south of Manchester Road, near Montrose Ave..
Fort Number Seven (four guns) a square work about 400 feet to each side, located on Vandeventer Place, west of Grand Blvd..
Fort Number Eight (five guns) a pentagonal work about 450 feet to a side, located on Garrison Ave. near Thomas Street.
Fort Number Nine (five guns) a pentagonal work about 450 feet to a side, located on 19th Street near Dodier Street.
Fort Number Ten (four guns) a quadrilateral work about 400 feet to each side, located west of Bellefontaine Ave., between Bremen Ave. and Angelica Street.
A heavy batttery was also located on the hill on Olive Street, about 600 feet west of Grand Blvd..
http://www.northamericanforts.com/West/mosouth.html
 
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I'm trying to nail down my wife's gg grandfather's service in the Union Army, and some of the comments on the Muster Rolls (attached) escape me. Here are the questions I'd appreciate some help with:
1. His Muster Out date is Oct. 6, 1863. I'm trying to figure out why he was discharged in the middle of the war.
2. "Discharged for the good of the service and not entitled to Bounty." I don't know what that means, but it sounds ominous.
3. March & April, 1863 "In arrest Fort No. 8, St. Louis". Am I reading that correctly? Was he arrested?
4. I have not been able to locate a "Fort No. 8, St. Louis"
5. If he was under arrest, where might I go to find out what the charges were?
This is sort of a grab bag of questions and I apologize for just throwing it out there. I'd appreciate any help you can offer.
Chuck

Probably no answers to your questions, but some history on his unit :

Second Artillery
MISSOURI
(3-YEARS)
Second Artillery. -- Col., Henry Almstedt; Lieut.-Col., Joseph
Weydemeyer, Majs., Theodore Wilkins, Dominick Urban.

This regiment was organized in the fall of 1861 and was on
service within the state until it was reorganized in Feb.
1864. The officers under the reorganization were as follows:
Col., Nelson Cole; Lieut.- Col., G. W. Schofield, Majs., Frank
Backof, C. Landgraeber, John W. Robb, Gustave Stange, John J.
Sutter.

In June, 1864, it was equipped and mounted as a regiment of
light artillery, and the different batteries were soon
afterward scattered over the country.

Battery A was at Cape Girardeau until June 11, when it was
ordered to St. Louis and remained there until October, when it
took part in Price's raid, after which it was attached to the
1st division 16th corps, and with Gen. A. J. Smith proceeded
to Nashville, where it assisted in the defeat and pursuit of
Gen. Hood's army.

Battery B acted as garrison at New Madrid until the latter
part of April, when it was ordered to Springfield, Mo. In
June it was moved to Rolla, thence to St. Louis, and
participated in the pursuit of Price. It went into winter
quarters at Franklin on Nov. 21, 1864.

Battery C left Cape Girardeau on May 8 and went to St. Louis,
where it received new equipments and from that time until the
close of the year was on duty in various parts of the state.
It also participated in the work of driving Price from
Missouri.

Battery D spent the year in the vicinity of Rolla, Pilot Knob,
Batesville, Ark., Jacksonport and Devall's Bluff, and was
engaged with the Confederates under Gen. Jo. Shelby at several
points.

Battery E was stationed at Little Rock, and formed part of the
forces of Gen. Steele's Camden expedition.

Battery F was assigned to the 1st division, 15th corps, about
May 1, and remained with that command during the Atlanta
campaign, being in the engagements at Resaca, Kennesaw
Mountain, Dallas, and about Atlanta. In October it marched
back to Resaca, engaging the enemy at several points on the
way, and was later ordered to Nashville, where it was attached
to the artillery reserve.

Battery G left Cape Girardeau in August and went to Memphis,
Tenn., where it was attached to the 1st brigade and
participated in the repulse and pursuit of the Confederates
under Gen. Forrest. It was then with an expedition, up the
Tennessee River, after which it returned to Memphis, where it
remained for the rest of the year.

Battery H was on duty in Missouri and was one of the artillery
organizations that was engaged in the pursuit of Price.
During the raid it consumed 1,700 rounds of ammunition, which
shows that it was not idle.

Battery I was on duty at Rolla, New Madrid, St. Louis and
Franklin until in November, when it was ordered to Paducah,
Ky., where it was attached to Gen. A. J. Smith's command and
moved to Nashville, where it fought with the 16th corps in the
defeat of Hood's army.

Battery K was on duty all the year in Missouri and was not in
any serious engagements with the enemy.

Battery L remained about Sedalia and Warrensburg until Sept.
24, when it was ordered to Jefferson City, and participated on
the campaign against Price.

Battery M was stationed at Camp Gamble, near St. Louis, until
Aug. 16, when it was ordered to Springfield, and remained on
duty in that part of the state until Nov. 13, when it went
into winter quarters at Franklin.

During the year 1865, Batteries B, C, D, E, H, K, L and M
formed part of the Powder River expedition against the
Indians, which left Omaha, Neb. July 2.

Batteries A, F and I were on duty at Johnsonville, Tenn.,
until ordered to St. Louis for muster out in the latter part
of August.

The several batteries were mustered out at different times and
places, M being the last to be discharged at St. Louis, Dec.
20, 1865.

Source: The Union Army, vol. 4, p. 280

***********************************************************************************


Report of Capt. Edward S. Rowland, Battery K, Second
Missouri Light Artillery, of skirmish September 1.

HDQRS. BATTERY K, SECOND MISSOURI LIGHT ARTY.,
In the Field, Mont. Ter., September 2, 1865.
SIR: I have the honor to report that on the 1st day of September, 1865,
my camp was attacked by Indians, and in compliance with orders from
headquarters Eastern Division, Indian Expedition, I at once proceeded
to repel the attack with all of the mounted men then in my camp, seven
in number. On arriving at the point of attack found that the Indians had
succeeded in driving off a number of horses. I immediately pushed on
after them, and on arriving at a point seven miles from camp discovered
a strong party of Indians, about fifty in number, in a ravine. I at once
attacked them. In the skirmish I lost 3 men killed and 2 wounded. A
much larger number of the Indians were killed and wounded. Lieut.
Ferran of my command followed with a small number of men and by a
different route; came upon the Indians that were driving the horses and
killed two and wounded several others.

I am, colonel, very respectfully, your obedient servant,

E. S. ROWLAND,
Capt., 2d Mo. Light Arty., Cmdg. Batty. K, Mounted as Cav.

Col. N. COLE,
Cmdg. Eastern Division, Indian Expedition.



Below I have the honor to report the names of killed and wounded;
Sergt. L. L. Holt, Privates Jesse Easter and Abner Garrison, Company
K, killed; Sergt. J. L. Duckett and Private Robert W. Walker, Company
K, wounded.

E. S. ROWLAND,
Capt., Second Missouri Light Arty., Cmdg. Company K.


Source: Official Records
PAGE 387-101 LOUISIANA AND THE TRANS-MISSISSIPPI. [CHAP. LX.
[Series I. Vol. 48. Part I, Reports, Correspondence, Etc. Serial No. 101.]
 
Somewhere out there, either at ancestry.com or NARA are some microfilm rolls of Union courts-martial. I believe NARA has them for sure, but it will cost you a fee to have them copied and sent to you. They may already be in his CSRs from NARA.
 
Includes physical description not in the other docs:

Westerbeck.jpg
 
The text pertinent to the 2nd Regiment, Missouri Light Artillery taken from the Annual Report of the Adjutant General of Missouri for the Year Ending December 31, 1865 (page 409) follows. It seems substantial numbers of men in the regiment enlisted for two years when the unit was formed. Special Order 219 detailed procedures for their muster out, pretty much routine so far as I can see. As yet I have not been able to find anything concerning Order 256.
https://books.google.com/books?id=S...al order 219 missouri August 13, 1863&f=false

Headquarters Department Of The Missouri,
St. Louis, August 13,1863. Special Orders, No. 219.
**********
III. All non-commissioned officers and privates of the 2d Regiment Artillery, Missouri volunteers, with the exceptions hereinafter referred to, who were enlisted before the 20th day of November, 1861, will be mustered out of service, without delay.​

All men who are now under punishment by sentence of a general court martial or military commission, all who have been tried and are awaiting sentence, and certain others against whom grave charges have been preferred, (a list of which men accompanies this order,) will be excepted from this muster out; all arms and other public property, in possession of companies or men to be mustered out, will be turned over to the proper staff departments. All ordnance property and horses, in possession of Light Company L of this regiment, will be turned over to the proper staff departments. The commanding officer of the regiment and company commanders, also the mustering officer, will take care to see that the proper stoppages of pay are made out on the muster out rolls, against all men who have lost, injured or destroyed any public property, or who have been absent without leave.​

The 2d Missouri Artillery, volunteers, will be organized and recruited to its proper maximum, as rapidly as practicable. For this purpose a military board will be appointed to examine the qualifications, propriety of conduct and efficiency of all the commanding officers of the regiment, and to consolidate the men remaining in the regiment after the muster out hereby ordered, into the proper number of full companies. Upon the report of this board, the Commanding General will order the muster out of such officers as shall not be found fit for their position.​

The Assistant Commissary of Musters of the District of St. Louis will make the musters required by this order.​

By command of Major General Schofield:​

J. A. CAMPBELL, Assistant Adjutant General.​
 
It seems substantial numbers of men in the regiment enlisted for two years when the unit was formed.
That makes sense -- he enlisted on October 10, 1861, and was mustered out October 6, 1863. That might well fall under the heading "discharged for the good of the service," as the Army was deliberately disbanding units preemptively whose soldiers' enlistments were almost up.

Although his record shows him as "in arrest" at Fort No. 8 through the spring and summer of 1863, his discharge may not have been connected to his conduct record.
 
That makes sense -- he enlisted on October 10, 1861, and was mustered out October 6, 1863. That might well fall under the heading "discharged for the good of the service," as the Army was deliberately disbanding units preemptively whose soldiers' enlistments were almost up.

Although his record shows him as "in arrest" at Fort No. 8 through the spring and summer of 1863, his discharge may not have been connected to his conduct record.

Thank you everyone for your excellent information. I'm writing a biography of Fred Westerbeck for my family and this information will absolutely enrich the story. Fred left Prussia because he did not want to get drafted in the Prussian army. Eight years after he arrived in America, he volunteered for the Union army. Of course, there's a big difference between being drafted and volunteering.

Chuck
 
Yeah, I found this wonderful profile of Westerbeck on Ancestry, with all sorts of detail information and documents and all, then realized it was yours.

Good luck with your project!
 
That makes sense -- he enlisted on October 10, 1861, and was mustered out October 6, 1863. That might well fall under the heading "discharged for the good of the service," as the Army was deliberately disbanding units preemptively whose soldiers' enlistments were almost up.

Although his record shows him as "in arrest" at Fort No. 8 through the spring and summer of 1863, his discharge may not have been connected to his conduct record.

Order No. 219 as posted only excepts those convicted by courts martial and "certain others against whom grave charges have been preffered" from bing mustered out. I'll guess Pvt. Westerbeck was "in arrest" for a bar fight or some other minor silliness and was honorably discharged with everyone else.
 
I was looking at his muster records and noticed that he didn't have any records for January and February, 1863. Maybe he just didn't show up. Fort Number Eight where he was kept while arrested is walking distance from his home. Perhaps he got bored with garrison duty or got a better-paying job as a brick mason (his trade). Anyway, I now have a working hypothesis that his two-month absence is related to his subsequent arrest.

6 November 1861

Joined for duty and enrolled Oct. 10, 1861 "for the (duration of the) war"

31 December 1861

Present (for roll call)

25 February 1862

Present

March and April 1862

Present

May and June 1862

Present

July and August 1862

Present

September and October 1862

Present

November and December 1862

Present

March and April 1863

Absent. In arrest at Fort No. 8, St. Louis

May and June 1863

Absent. In arrest at Fort No. 8, St. Louis

6 October 1863

Last paid to Feb. 28, 1863

Am't for clothing'g in kind or money adv'd $7.41

Clothing allowance due since 1/62, when last settled M.O. according to S.O. No. 219

Discharged for good
 
But it states on one of the cards that he was honorably discharged.
Yeah, but you can be tried by court-martial and be convicted (or not) of an offense they won't necessarily kick you out of the service for. I have some CS abstracts for Shelbyville in the spring of 1863, showing an indirect ancestor tried for some things that happened during the Battle of Murfreesboro. He was sentenced to 30 days suspension of pay and rank.
 
Yeah, but you can be tried by court-martial and be convicted (or not) of an offense they won't necessarily kick you out of the service for. I have some CS abstracts for Shelbyville in the spring of 1863, showing an indirect ancestor tried for some things that happened during the Battle of Murfreesboro. He was sentenced to 30 days suspension of pay and rank.

My Dad was convicted at courts-martial immediately after WWII. He'd bribed a crane operator with a pound of still-rationed butter to move a bunch of stuff he and his guys were supposed to move by hand and got caught. He was sentenced to the loss of a few days' shore leave and ultimately discharged honorably from the U.S. Navy. They didn't punish people permanently for this sort of foolishness.
 
I was looking at his muster records and noticed that he didn't have any records for January and February, 1863. Maybe he just didn't show up. Fort Number Eight where he was kept while arrested is walking distance from his home. Perhaps he got bored with garrison duty or got a better-paying job as a brick mason (his trade). Anyway, I now have a working hypothesis that his two-month absence is related to his subsequent arrest.

6 November 1861

Joined for duty and enrolled Oct. 10, 1861 "for the (duration of the) war"

31 December 1861

Present (for roll call)

25 February 1862

Present

March and April 1862

Present

May and June 1862

Present

July and August 1862

Present

September and October 1862

Present

November and December 1862

Present

March and April 1863

Absent. In arrest at Fort No. 8, St. Louis

May and June 1863

Absent. In arrest at Fort No. 8, St. Louis

6 October 1863

Last paid to Feb. 28, 1863

Am't for clothing'g in kind or money adv'd $7.41

Clothing allowance due since 1/62, when last settled M.O. according to S.O. No. 219

Discharged for good
The missing record may just be a missing record - they go missing all the time. If he had gone AWOL during Jan and Feb it would say absent without leave.
 

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