Tintype Tuesday #12

[Manassas 1861]

Pvt. Ivey W. Duggen, Co. K, 15th Georgia Infantry. He wears an early war Georgia shell jacket, sloch hat, and knapsack. CWT.

 

[52ndFandS]

Great photo. Everything I see one of those braces I can't help but think of a display case at a department store.

 

[SethJ]

I wonder if the black on the collar and sleeve is just a fashion choice, or if these are militia uniforms which have yet to be replaced... Nice image.

 

[52ndFandS]

I wonder if the black on the collar and sleeve is just a fashion choice, or if these are militia uniforms which have yet to be replaced... Nice image.

I've heard that militia and medical used black collar and sleeve facings. I've seen uniforms from Tennessee where my mom is from that have black facings.

I had not thought to much of it. Things got pretty standardized in.the east buy I've seen a lot of jackets and coats from the west that are whole different animals. Mystery jackets...

 

[Lampasas Bill]

An unusual angle. It's interesting to see the apparatus for holding the subject's head still

 

[52ndFandS]

The first time I saw it was in this photo of Grant getting sighted in for a statue when i was a kid. I didn't know they used them in photos often.

 

[SethJ]

I've heard that militia and medical used black collar and sleeve facings. I've seen uniforms from Tennessee where my mom is from that have black facings.

I had not thought to much of it. Things got pretty standardized in.the east buy I've seen a lot of jackets and coats from the west that are whole different animals. Mystery jackets...

I knew of militia. Had yet to hear that medical wore it. Although, considering this fine chap is shouldering a rifle, and is wearing a knapsack, it is likely an infantrymen. Then again, I see no cap pouch, or anything that makes me believe there is a cartridge box on him. I'm confused to say the least. You have given me a little more to research, so thank you.

(Edit) tintype says he was a member of the infantry... I doubt he would br part of medical personnel while serving with the infantry. Still wonder where his accouterments are.

 

[Manassas 1861]

I knew of militia. Had yet to hear that medical wore it. Although, considering this fine chap is shouldering a rifle, and is wearing a knapsack, it is likely an infantrymen. Then again, I see no cap pouch, or anything that makes me believe there is a cartridge box on him. I'm confused to say the least. You have given me a little more to research, so thank you.

(Edit) tintype says he was a member of the infantry... I doubt he would br part of medical personnel while serving with the infantry. Still wonder where his accouterments are.

Early in the war CS states had different different branches colors than later in the war. Black for the state of Georgia ment infantry.

 

[Manassas 1861]

@SethJ his accoutrements are fixed on his belt.

 

[52ndFandS]

I knew of militia. Had yet to hear that medical wore it. Although, considering this fine chap is shouldering a rifle, and is wearing a knapsack, it is likely an infantrymen. Then again, I see no cap pouch, or anything that makes me believe there is a cartridge box on him. I'm confused to say the least. You have given me a little more to research, so thank you.

(Edit) tintype says he was a member of the infantry... I doubt he would br part of medical personnel while serving with the infantry. Still wonder where his accouterments are.

I think.black being medical would have been far more frightening to any wounded soldier than medical staff were in the first place.

This got me reading and there was a possibility that the CSMC had the same facings, possibility trousers as well. There are recounting of Arkansas troops with the same facings too.

Also the Georgia jacket has always been a little suspect to me. As south as Jacksonville, FloridaSouth Carolina was providing uniforms too. I'll have to do some homework now. I think we both got eachother looking.

Fredrick Adolphus has a great site on.uniforms and his book is very good. He's gotten me into uniforms more than I ever was which is proving to be a time and money saver in my starting to reenact.

 

[52ndFandS]

@SethJ his accoutrements are fixed on his belt.

World's smallest cartridge box?

 

[SethJ]

@SethJ his accoutrements are fixed on his belt.

Once I cleaned my glasses I found it.

Perhaps I need my eyes checked. Again.

 

[52ndFandS]

Once I cleaned my glasses I found it.

Perhaps I need my eyes checked. Again.

Mayne not. One of the things I really like about these photographs is that you can look at soldiers and basics are there but the differences make them priceless.

 

[captaindrew]

I wonder if the black on the collar and sleeve is just a fashion choice, or if these are militia uniforms which have yet to be replaced... Nice image.

The state of Georgia used black trim for infantry on their state produced garments. They also had that distinctive cuff trim seen on both jackets and frock coats. They show up as late as Gettysburg, some of the dead photographed at the Rose farm are wearing Georgia state jackets. Black was a common trim color across the board, was easier to obtain than blue and especially yellow.

 

[52ndFandS]

The state of Georgia used black trim for infantry on their state produced garments. They also had that distinctive cuff trim seen on both jackets and frock coats. They show up as late as Gettysburg, some of the dead photographed at the Rose farm are wearing Georgia state jackets. Black was a common trim color across the board, was easier to obtain than blue and especially yellow. View attachment 510722

I read of a unit, I think in Mississippi. They came out at.the begining of the war with these sackcoats of fine gray wool and bright, and i mean bright, yellow facings. They went to war looking like horseless cavalry, in fashion plate style.

I'm sure they were relieved when issued new uniforms.

Those uniforms were quickly ditched.

 

[SethJ]

I read of a unit, I think in Mississippi. They came out at.the begining of the war with these sackcoats of fine gray wool and bright, and i mean bright, yellow facings. They went to war looking like horseless cavalry, in fashion plate style.

I'm sure they were relieved when issued new uniforms.

Those uniforms were quickly ditched.

So all of those unmount cavalry uniforms that look farby are not actually that farb..!

Nah, they're still farb.

 

[Pollaco]

That little tiny pouch is for percussion caps, isn't it?

 

[UCVRelics]

He is wearing a standard issue model 1855 belt and keeper. What caught my eye is what appears to be a saddle ring on the side of his musket????

 

[52ndFandS]

So all of those unmount cavalry uniforms that look farby are not actually that farb..!

Nah, they're still farb.

Such an abstraction from reality.

 

[UCVRelics]

That little tiny pouch is for percussion caps, isn't it?

Yep, his cartridge box is hidden on the other side.