Sword Question Repeat!

[Fishy]

Hello, I recently bought a civil war sword from a flea market and I would like some help identifying it's authenticity.
(I rather not mess around with the real thing for my first restoration !)
It is very dirty and I have attached many photos. Please let me know if more are needed! Thank you everyone!

 

[Salterr]

A reproduction sword, a real CS sword would be several thousands of dollars. That CSA marking is usually a give away on reproductions and the grip looks like newer material

 

[gjpratt]

I concur with @Salterr A well known fake.

 

[R. Porter]

It looks pretty awful! I agree that it is a reproduction but Confederate swords are the ones I know least about. There are only a few sources that deal with them and that have only one example of each type of sword they mention. Most Confederate swords seem to be unmarked or imported, captured, or purchased from American makers before the war and all of these origins are undocumented making it impossible to prove they were Confederate. Then there are all the reproductions and fakes.

 

[scooter748driver]

I agree. A fake sword and not a good one at that it seems. I think you're good to do whatever you want to it.

 

[Fishy]

Oh thank god. Thanks everyone~

 

[Fishy]

A reproduction sword, a real CS sword would be several thousands of dollars. That CSA marking is usually a give away on reproductions and the grip looks like newer material

What does the marking usually look like?

 

[Salterr]

What does the marking usually look like?

It depends on what type of sword you are looking at. Union or confederate will be different and different models have different characteristics. Union swords will have a maker and inspector initials with a year of manufacturing. Some will have proof symbols on some foreign imports. Confederate are sometimes marked but not always. Grips are leather or shark/ray skin. Some of the wire twists are single or doubled. Sometimes the fuller runs the length of the sword other times not. Some swords have rounded spines while others flat. As for blade designs some have etching or frosting while others have a clean blade with no designs. The pommel cap shouldn't look like a bolt or screw but the pin should be flush with the pommel. Also on etched blades avoid ones with the missing E in E Pluribus unum

 

[bayonet]

Sharpen it up and whack weeds with it but don't let the Wife near it, she may beat you with it for wasting money.

 

[Fishy]

It depends on what type of sword you are looking at. Union or confederate will be different and different models have different characteristics. Union swords will have a maker and inspector initials with a year of manufacturing. Some will have proof symbols on some foreign imports. Confederate are sometimes marked but not always. Grips are leather or shark/ray skin. Some of the wire twists are single or doubled. Sometimes the fuller runs the length of the sword other times not. Some swords have rounded spines while others flat. As for blade designs some have etching or frosting while others have a clean blade with no designs. The pommel cap shouldn't look like a bolt or screw but the pin should be flush with the pommel. Also on etched blades avoid ones with the missing E in E Pluribus unum

Thank you for the detailed reply, that answers all my questions haha

 

[Fishy]

Sharpen it up and whack weeds with it but don't let the Wife near it, she may beat you with it for wasting money.
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Good thing I'm not married! I got an earful from my parents tho ! Gotta lay low for a bit haha

 

[bayonet]

Good thing I'm not married! I got an earful from my parents tho ! Gotta lay low for a bit haha

why what you pay for it at the Flea Market?

 

[Fishy]

why what you pay for it at the Flea Market?

It was $40. My parents are just tired of me bringing random things home haha

 

[R. Porter]

I think my first sword was a wall hanger from Pier 1 made in India with "India" on the ricasso for about $12.00. After a while I was able to get a Kirschbaum model 1840 cavalry saber without a scabbard or grip but with a knight's head stamp on the ricasso. I think it cost me $15.00. After that I had to pay.

 

[captaindrew]

Clean the rust up and you've got a cool wall hanger for not much $.

 

[Fishy]

I think my first sword was a wall hanger from Pier 1 made in India with "India" on the ricasso for about $12.00. After a while I was able to get a Kirschbaum model 1840 cavalry saber without a scabbard or grip but with a knight's head stamp on the ricasso. I think it cost me $15.00. After that I had to pay.

Oh that's so cool !

 

[bayonet]

It was $40. My parents are just tired of me bringing random things home haha

Did they actually tell you it was a original CSA sword?

 

[Fishy]

Did they actually tell you it was a original CSA sword?

No, it was in a hidden bucket. There was no information

 

[bayonet]

No, it was in a hidden bucket. There was no information

it should of stayed hidden

 

[Fishy]

it should of stayed hidden

Haha, is it that bad ?