Lee Submarine Robert E. Lee

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

Yeah, we do have the best subs on the planet.

Boomers and attack subs.

We learned everything from ya'll.

Dönitz would be proud . . . I think.

 

[Schwallanscher]

Yeah, we do have the best subs on the planet.

Boomers and attack subs.

We learned everything from ya'll.

Dönitz would be proud . . . I think.

los angeles class would be prien class, though

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

los angeles class would be prien class, though

I like that !

 

[Carronade]

I thought all USN submarines were named for fish.

Strictly speaking, marine creatures, including Dolphin, Narwhal, etc. The "boomers" were the first to break the pattern, I suppose for PR reasons; they were also referred to as the "41 for Freedom". Fast attacks continued to be named for marine animals except for a few dead Congressmen (probably a good joke there) until Rickover changed to cities in the Los Angeles class because "fish don't vote".

Since we no longer had battleships, they used state names for the Ohios and then the Virginias. Our last six DLGN/CGNs also had state names, but we stopped building those too.

Probably the most convoluted class is the Seawolf, three boats comprising Seawolf, Connecticut, and Jimmy Carter. I suspect JC was chosen (by a Republican Congress) so they could avoid naming a carrier for him. The Seawolf is SSN-21 (21st century, get it??) so the sequence goes:

Los Angeles class ending with SSN-773
SSN-21-23
SSN-774...... Virginia class

 

[DaveBrt]

I was at Ft. Hood attending the NCO Academy there back in the 1980's. I hated the fort, not the person it was named after, because 55,000 men assigned there were in the middle of a "dry county."

A military man does not think of the historical figure his post, base, or station is named after. He's more concerned if his 1st Sergeant is a d**k, his Company Commander is a fool, or his Division General is a hard a** that calls for Field Training Exercises (FTXs) over the holidays or weekends.

At Ft. Bliss, TX, I had all three and couldn't wait to get assigned overseas again. I find it so amusing that some here have to get upset over a fort's name when the name is the furthest thing from the soldier's mind who is stationed there. I am absolutely sure it is the exact same thing for a sailor on a ship or an airman on a base.

Ya' all have fun playing.

Unionblue

Whether a ship's crew takes pride in the historical background for the ship's name is almost totally a matter of whether the CO has pride in it. I was on a couple of dozen ships long enough to know if the crew was proud of their heritage -- most made no connection, but a few did.

My first ship was an oiler, USS Taluga, which had fought in WW2 and "shot" down a kamikaze with her forward superstructure. She had been a real workhorse through Korea and Viet Nam. The crew had pride in her past and their accomplishments. On the following ships, many knew what the ship was named for, but there was no connection to it (New Orleans, John R. Craig, Hainsworth, Okinawa, Dubuque, Blue Ridge, Denver, Peoria, etc.).

 

[archieclement]

come on, all subs named for presidents are named for bubbleheads, whereas only one president your navy named a flatdeck for was a naval aviator (cvn-78)

????? Ford wasn't only aviator president with a CV named after him

 

[Will Carry]

To the USS Finback! All hail! George Bush was shot down with seven others. They were all captured, tortured, killed and eaten by the Japanese. The Finback took a huge risk to save young George Bush.

 

[Schwallanscher]

????? Ford wasn't only aviator president with a CV named after him

i completely missed thatone - always wondered why they hadn't named one after bush

thx for correcting me

 

[USS ALASKA]

Off the top of my head, 20th century presidents descended from Confederates:

1) Woodrow Wilson

2) Harry S Truman (whose mother flat out refused to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom at the White House)

3) Lyndon Baines Johnson

4) James Earl Carter (IIRC, his great grandfather and brothers were artillerists at Gettysburg)

5) William Jefferson Clinton

Again, off the top of my head, the only 20th century president descended from a Union Soldier was Richard Milhouse Nixon, whose great grandfather was killed at the Battle of Gettysburg and is buried there. It's possible there are more Civil War descendants among 20th century presidents.

To stretch the definition of '...descended from...' a bit, Commander James Dunwoody Bulloch, CSN, who was the Confederacy's primary 'secret' agent in Great Britain had a half-sister Martha, who was the mother of U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt and grandmother of First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt.

Cheers,
USS ALASKA

 

[Bass50Ga]

M

To most Americans, the Civil War is long over, our nation has reconciled its differences and again united. Any reference to "Confederates" today is generally friendly humor, not unlike referring to West Virginians as "Ridge Runners" or Wisconsinites are called "Cheeseheads".
Few outside this Forum, various lineage-based membership service organizations, and academia care about the Civil War. It simply is not important in the daily lives of most Americans.
Many descendants of rebels have served our country faithfully over the years. Two twentieth-century Presidents were descended from rebel soldiers. Any 'roll call' of distinguished American military leaders of the twentieth or current century is filled with descendants of rebel soldiers. There is no reason that the actions of their ancestors, long forgiven, should exclude recognition of their own honorable service.I

 

[13 IL Cav & 64 GA Inf]

Never mentioned naming a ship after a battle just humans nor am I protesting anything. If you careful read my post, the last sentence was "I think".

It takes no great feat of logic to realize the times have changed especially after the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church incident, does it? My personal beliefs have not been mentioned nor should they in this post. Just facts.
Regards
David

It would be offensive only to those who choose to think it offensive - Not to many Americans.

 

[Bass50Ga]

I had all CSA soildiers, my Uncle was in the U. S. MARINES, Received the silver star Aug 7 1952,
Another time every one was killed except him, another time was the last out of a bunker when artillery hit. He's still alive in his 90s.
my cousin died in Vietnam 101st Airborne1969, others served in WW1, WW2
I was in the Navy 1978-1981, at Charleston where an ancestor was on the CSS Columbia. my Grandpa never spoke of the civil war. I moved to Ohio, Civil war monuments in nearly every town, supprised that Gettysburg dosent get vandalized, the world seems nutty now.