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Thanks for your response. I will appreciate your help in correcting my statement.Two 20th century presidents? Let me help you with your math one day?
Thanks for your response. I will appreciate your help in correcting my statement.Two 20th century presidents? Let me help you with your math one day?
Thanks for your response.By the way, we are not descendant from, "rebels," we are descended from, "Confederates."
Hey, sounds like a good subject for a new thread! Maybe you should start one. /SARCThanks for your response.
I refuse to argue the point, although the fact is that those so-called "Confederates" were engaged in a rebellion against the lawful government.
The rebels of 1861 -1865 had no problem at all being called rebels. They relished it. They even called the Civil War the 2nd American Revolution. People who make revolutions are universally and correctly known as rebels. The patriots of 1776 were rebels. George Washington was a rebel and he and his fellow rebels expected to be hanged if they lost. Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis and Sam Watkins were rebels. It is a fact - not an insult. A bit touchy, aren't we?Two 20th century presidents? Let me help you with your math one day?
By the way, we are not descendant from, "rebels," we are descended from, "Confederates." That's what we like to be called and everyone (but us, it seems) is allowed to be called as he wishes.
You let me know when you're ready to do the math on 20th century presidents and I'll help you out.
The rebels of 1861 -1865 had no problem at all being called rebels. They relished it. They even called the Civil War the 2nd American Revolution. People who make revolutions are universally and correctly known as rebels. The patriots of 1776 were rebels. George Washington was a rebel and he and his fellow rebels expected to be hanged if they lost. Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis and Sam Watkins were rebels. It is a fact - not an insult. A bit touchy, aren't we?
There were other Nuclear subs, the USS Stonewall Jackson and the USS Richard L. Page, other ships named for Confederate were the USS Waddell, USS Semmes, USS Hunley and the USS Dixon. We name ships as we do, we always have.
... and Indian chief Tecumseh - AFAIK the only American military ship name to commemorate someone killed by the American military.
The Stewart tank and the Lee Tank predate the Sherman Tank.
The 60s were an era of inclusivity, although I don't recall that the term had been coined yet. The Polaris ballistic missile submarines had "Famous Americans" names, a category which eventually included Hawaiian king Kamehameha, South American liberator Simon Bolivar, and Indian chief Tecumseh - AFAIK the only American military ship name to commemorate someone killed by the American military.
There have been two USS Semmes and three Buchanans, the first of each in the massive WWI destroyer program. The last pair were in the 1960s Charles F. Adams class of destroyers, which also included Waddell and Tatnall.
US Military bases were big ones too.
Henry Benning was a politician turned General of the south who Ft. Benning was named after.
Fort Bragg, Polk, Lee, A.P. Hill, Gordon, Pickett, Rucker, Camp Beauregard...
I always think of Fort Hood, former home of the 2nd armored Hell on Wheels division
Thanks for your response. I will appreciate your help in correcting my statement.
Great post Stiles !The launching of the submarine Robert E. Lee SSBN-601 sliding into the James River.
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especially the ohio class boomers are named after the ohio fish that's, as to be expected, some sort of saltwater fish - a rather big sort of saltwater fishGreat post Stiles !
I wasn't aware that the United States Navy named our subs after Confederate Generals.
I thought all USN submarines were named after fish.