Manassas 1861
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I'm hoping to put together a Confederate uniform. Does anybody know where I can buy a reproduction sicillian cap online?
A frock coat is a good choice and versatile, they were worn in every theater. One thing to take into consideration is a good quality frock is going to cost some $$$. Why a 1839 cap? That was a Mexican War thing, most CW enlisted men would have been young children at that time. What does show up some in photos is a civilian wheel cap or mechanics cap which was popular at the time. They looked similar to the old army cap. I would say an early war trimmed kepi would be a much better looking choice. A good slouch hat was always in style and you could even use it portraying Federal.@captaindrew I want to make it an early war ANV impression. I was thinking of a frock coat, and an 1839 US army cap.
Probably easier to just make one. The museum of the Confederacy has one that belonged to O. Jennings Wise, killed at Roanoke in 1862. They can provide on request a description, diagram, showing its size and construction for a fee.I'm hoping to put together a Confederate uniform. Does anybody know where I can buy a reproduction sicillian cap online?
@Manassas 1861 how early are you talking? The second half of 1861 which would cover 1st Manassas? Or the first half of 1862?@captaindrew I want to make it an early war ANV impression. I was thinking of a frock coat, and an 1839 US army cap.
I can't speak for the kit as what I'm putting together is deep south and very generic. But headgear is another thing. Of course wearing its another too. I have a planter hat but I'm not using it in the field, but is nice when I mow the lawn.A frock coat is a good choice and versatile, they were worn in every theater. One thing to take into consideration is a good quality frock is going to cost some $$$. Why a 1839 cap? That was a Mexican War thing, most CW enlisted men would have been young children at that time. What does show up some in photos is a civilian wheel cap or mechanics cap which was popular at the time. They looked similar to the old army cap. I would say an early war trimmed kepi would be a much better looking choice. A good slouch hat was always in style and you could even use it portraying Federal.
So what's your goal? Do you want to participate in some events as Confederate? You have a group in mind? If I can give advice I would make it as versatile as possible unless you can afford several jackets and hats. A frock is a good choice or a good commutation jacket is also very versatile. If you're mainly wanting an ANV look I would go with a jean Richmond Depot type 2. Would cover you from mid 62 on.
You're quite certain these are glazed hats? Not those waterproof hat covers you see in some images on kepis that give them that shiny look.Probably easier to just make one. The museum of the Confederacy has one that belonged to O. Jennings Wise, killed at Roanoke in 1862. They can provide on request a description, diagram, showing its size and construction for a fee.
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Museum of the Confderacy: Wise Cap...
We've already seen a few early war images with the Johnny Rebs wearing such caps over the crowns of their forage caps, or under them... for the photographers... I think an earlier thread on this forum made a strong case that they were in fact made up for "fatigue cap covers" viz. to act something like a havelock to protect the military cap, and the baggy falling crown for decoration, shade, etc. For example, from a reference to Company F, 10th Georgia Volunteers in 1861, they were outfitted with "cap covers...parti-colored or plaid, long and pointed, and so arranged that they may be thrown back on the neck or over the visor."
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In other words, something like the havelock. For example, though "havelocks" were regulation for the CS Army, and popular for troops....
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Charleston Courier, 5-29-1861.
....not everyone knew what they looked like...
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Charleston Courier, 6-12-1861.
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Charleston Courier, 6-6-1861.
So such fancy "parti-colored" (many colored) jaunty cap covers appear simple enough to make; but on any such score they were certainly no more successful where employed than the "havelock" pattern cover, and likely fell out of favor as quickly.
Regarding 1839 army forage caps...
As mentioned, old army clothing was not something to be found around in 1861. there were no "military surplus stores" back then. All the surplus army clothing produced during the War with Mexico was issued until exhausted in the 1850s, including the 1839 pattern forage caps, which were in use as fatigue wear by regular soldiers through the late 1850s...
Civilian caps were more common. Sometimes used by militia corps as fatigue caps...
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Here's an excellent example of a Confederate used citizen's style glazed cap...
CWTalk, Confederate glazed cap, 1st VA Cavalry...
From Library of Congress...
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Some Missouri State Guards, 1861:
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Here's a chap of the 11th Virginia Volunteers, 1861...
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Before the blockade choked off trade, etc., the Confederate volunteers could outfit as they saw fit.
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Charleston Mercury, 2-13-1861.
By the close of the year, common glazed caps, 2.50 per dozen!
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Ibid., 11-14-1861.
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Ibid., 1-6-1862.
The company of Louisiana State troops who secured the New Orleans Barracks in early 1861 in their common hats and caps...
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Daily Dispatch, Richmond, 1-22-1861.
The Confederate regular army adopted the "kepi" style as regulation in June, 1861. While it set the fashion, and perhaps guided the market and later the Confederate government's depot production from the close of 1862, the Confederate volunteers wore whatever, though principally slouch hats where available.
Perote Guards, 1st Alabama, Volunteers, April, 1861...
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Forbes sketch of CSA prisoners captured at Chancellorsville, a variety of hats and caps... looks like a common cap at center perhaps...
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Forbes sketch of CSA prisoners taken in Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg, a chap with a common cap sketched in front...
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POWs taken at Five Forks in April, 1865...
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Newly freed men in Richmond mid-1865:
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