Shell stuck in barrel, Gettysburg cannon

Ethan S.

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I've seen dozens of plugged guns at several battlefields, and this one isn't plugged in the usual way. A 3in. gun next to the 1st New York Battery B monument at Gettysburg, appears to have a shell in the barrel of the gun. It's not perfectly spherical, but it is solid iron and convex in shape. It almost seems to be a hotchkiss shell jammed backwards into the barrel. Anyone know anything about this?
 
The government's way of de-miling (making it unable to be used for military purposes) and preparing it for display. I've seen several of these scattered around military parks and displays. Stick in a solid bolt/ball, weld it in and it's now rendered inoperable. There is at least one that has a ball wedged in during combat that has never been removed. It's in the Rhode Island Capital building.
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If you ever visit Shiloh NMP, go to the National Cemetery. Down near the river, there are several cannon on display - one is still loaded. if you put your camera (with a flash) into the muzzle, you can clearly see the round in the barrel.
The gun in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building was also loaded for a number of years until a child ask if it was loaded. It was unloaded by the National Guard who drilled a hole in the bottom of the tube and removed the powder charge rendering it safe.
 
The gun in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building was also loaded for a number of years until a child ask if it was loaded. It was unloaded by the National Guard who drilled a hole in the bottom of the tube and removed the powder charge rendering it safe.
Nowhere near as exciting, but I was once mailed a .62 constabulary percussion carbine and force-of-habit, checked it upon receipt. Yup - had to use a worm to remove a 20 gauge slug over a charge of nitro powder in the chamber.
 
I bought an 1842 Springfield Musket from a dealer in NC in 1986. They shipped it UPS. When it arrived, I uncrated it and checked it over. It looked great. I removed the ramrod and dropped it down the barrel. Thud! The ramrod stuck out the barrel the length of a cartridge. I called my friend who was a gunsmith. He told me it was most likely still loaded and not to play with it. I brought it over to him and he wormed it out. He was right!
 
It was unloaded by the National Guard who drilled a hole in the bottom of the tube and removed the powder charge rendering it safe.

Oh come on...there are easier ways to unload cannon...


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I've seen dozens of plugged guns at several battlefields, and this one isn't plugged in the usual way. A 3in. gun next to the 1st New York Battery B monument at Gettysburg, appears to have a shell in the barrel of the gun. It's not perfectly spherical, but it is solid iron and convex in shape. It almost seems to be a hotchkiss shell jammed backwards into the barrel. Anyone know anything about this?
I wonder how many passersby that witness this try to remove it.
Lubliner.
 
I bought an 1842 Springfield Musket from a dealer in NC in 1986. They shipped it UPS. When it arrived, I uncrated it and checked it over. It looked great. I removed the ramrod and dropped it down the barrel. Thud! The ramrod stuck out the barrel the length of a cartridge. I called my friend who was a gunsmith. He told me it was most likely still loaded and not to play with it. I brought it over to him and he wormed it out. He was right!
Why would you do that????? The story of that musket with a round in was lost to time. There is NO way it would have gone off.
 
I was a re-enactor at the time and that was going to be my weapon of choice. I thought about that but after all this time, the round was not a CW round. I believe it was used as someone's gun for hunting post-war. Of course I may be wrong. I did contact the seller to see if he had any history on the musket but he replied he didn't.
 
The gun in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building was also loaded for a number of years until a child ask if it was loaded. It was unloaded by the National Guard who drilled a hole in the bottom of the tube and removed the powder charge rendering it safe.
To follow up, this link contains a 2024 post by a guy who claims to be that kid.

 
The gun in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building was also loaded for a number of years until a child ask if it was loaded. It was unloaded by the National Guard who drilled a hole in the bottom of the tube and removed the powder charge rendering it safe.
I read your comment about the cannon in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building to my daughter and now I have to put some percussion rifles I had shipped to me in the garage, still boxed, until I head back home next month. She doesn't know that I have two more coming.
 
I read your comment about the cannon in the lobby of the Rhode Island capitol building to my daughter and now I have to put some percussion rifles I had shipped to me in the garage, still boxed, until I head back home next month. She doesn't know that I have two more coming.
I feel your pain, at a recent gun show, I violated Bob's Rule #1: NEVER BUY A LOADED SHELL. To be honest, it was in with several others all that had been de-milled and to be honest it was too good a deal to pass up on. Once I got them home and realized that I did have an active shell , I put it in a 5 gallon bucket of water in my back yard which still didn't please my wife. The next problem was finding someone to deactivate it as there's not many people left that do this and safely getting it to them. Thanks to an excellent packaging job and a very good friend that was safely accomplished and now I'm waiting on it's return. And while it probably wouldn't have presented a problem, it always pays to be sure. Bob's Rule #2, There' s old and there's bold, but I've gotten way too old to be very bold. :dance:
 
I feel your pain, at a recent gun show, I violated Bob's Rule #1: NEVER BUY A LOADED SHELL. To be honest, it was in with several others all that had been de-milled and to be honest it was too good a deal to pass up on. Once I got them home and realized that I did have an active shell , I put it in a 5 gallon bucket of water in my back yard which still didn't please my wife. The next problem was finding someone to deactivate it as there's not many people left that do this and safely getting it to them. Thanks to an excellent packaging job and a very good friend that was safely accomplished and now I'm waiting on it's return. And while it probably wouldn't have presented a problem, it always pays to be sure. Bob's Rule #2, There' s old and there's bold, but I've gotten way too old to be very bold. :dance:
My issue may now be spreading to swords too. There may be some justification since some of the swords I have recently obtained are very sharp Japanese swords. I don't think I need to worry about artillery projectiles. I've been deathly afraid of having a live one all my life. The few times I went metal detecting I always hoped I wouldn't dig up a shell. Years ago there was guy who would disarm live artillery shells down the road apiece in Chester, VA. He was killed trying to disarm a siege mortar shell, if I remember correctly. He was an expert and he still fell to an unfortunate accident, so there's no way I would have anything to do with a live shell.
 

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