Seeing Starrs

[Papabyrd]

On another post they were talking about the civil war guns made by Starr. Though y'all Might like to see some of them. The top gun is the U.S. Model 1816 Musket Lock is marked N. Starr with a sun burst and U.S. but this one is realty worn to where all you can see is just N st and part of the star burst and the U. Back of the lock is dated 1831. Also the barrel has been shortened to 33 inches. The second is The Starr carbine made for the Union from 1862 to 1865. It is percussion Fired. The top pistol is the Starr 1858 Army self cocking revolver. most people call them double action. Truth is the trigger is a cocking leaver and the gun is fired by a sear behind the trigger that is why people think they are not working correctly. There is a slide on the back of the trigger you can set to make it fire by pulling the hammer all the way back but the gun is very hard to shoot this way. the next pistol is the 1863 single action Army Revolver. The army ask the Starr if they could make their revolver to fire single action only to make them more like the Colt and Remington revolvers They did and also made the barrel 8 inches instead of 6 on the 1858. This one is marked on both sides of the grip with inspection cartouches and the letter P in several places. But it's history does not stop at the end of the war. It was converted to 44 Colt caliber rimfire cartridge some time probably in the 1870s and may have been carried to the west. To load it you had to break it down and remove the cylinder load in the cartridges and put it back together. Slow way to load but faster than percussion loading. Last but not least is the Starr 4 barrel 32 rimfire pocket pistol. This is the second model you push a button on the side of the frame and the barrels drop down for loading. Close the action and back the hammer to fire. Each time you cock the hammer it rotates the firing pin to another chamber till all 4 shots are fired. Very much like the Sharps 4 barrel pistol.

 

[UCVRelics]

Very Nice collection of Starrs.

 

[Papabyrd]

Thank you UCVrelicks ! I need an 1817 rifled musket and a sword. Although I don't think many swords made it to the Civil war

 

[RSMorris]

That is very cool having a theme/series. It's neat Starr had long guns as well as pistols. I am thinking of selling/ trading all mine off for a Fenian theme.

 

[JOHN42768]

Great group, but don't forget the third revolver ( 2 .44 & 1 .36) and the Model 1865 RF. 5000 ordered in early 1865. 3000 arrived in March & April before the end of War and 2000 more in May. I'm still looking for rifle and pepperbox. The 1865 is described confusingly as .52. .54. 56-50, 56-56 depending on which book you choose to go with. A couple of photos. Ser.# 31303A. I believe a very small number ever got issued, but did see service in Indian Wars

 

[JOHN42768]

That is very cool having a theme/series. It's neat Starr had long guns as well as pistols. I am thinking of selling/ trading all mine off for a Fenian theme.

Again a small number went to Canada and will be found with WD over arrow marking on stock

 

[RSMorris]

Again a small number went to Canada and will be found with WD over arrow marking on stock

There is one of those now sn 34 they say has the WD arrow on guns International.

Spencer Model 1865 Infantry Rifle Early 2 Digit Serial for sale

Spencer Model 1865 Infantry Rifle Early 2 Digit Serial for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[Seduzal]

Thanks for sharing these awesome photos and the history of them. Enjoyed it.