Rifle Question

[Virginia Dave]

I saw this rifle in a shop today and was curious about it. This store does not usually sell antique weapons. The fellow behind the counter new nothing about it except it was there on consignment. $895.00. I took a few photos and hope someone can tell me a little about it. The ram rod did not look original. It was metal and looked about 4 inches to long. I know absolutely nothing about antique weapons, and wondered about the price. High, low, ridiculous? Thanks

 

[FedericoFCavada]

I like it! It is an 1839 dated Harpers Ferry-manufactured Model 1835 .69 smooth bore musket altered to percussion some time in the late 1840s or 1850s. The brass was once the pan, which was cut off when the conversion took place. It could well have Civil War provenance, since so many of these converted flintlocks were on hand when the war began. Was it rifled, or is it still a smooth bore?

The cone is a newly manufactured replacement from what I can see in the photo.

 

[Lanyard Puller]

The price is about where it should be, considering the condition.

 

[frontrank2]

Wish I had seen that about 6 months ago.

 

[UCVRelics]

Nice one and that it being in an antique shop on consignment, I'm sure they will take the normal 10% off that price.

 

[NH Civil War Gal]

It's calling your name @Virginia Dave! Now you'll have to spend long hours wondering who ATC was and what he did, etc.

 

[Virginia Dave]

It's calling your name @Virginia Dave! Now you'll have to spend long hours wondering who ATC was and what he did, etc.

Well it will be calling my name for a long time before I can come up with that much. LOL I am to old to start that kind of a collection.

 

[Virginia Dave]

I like it! It is an 1839 dated Harpers Ferry-manufactured Model 1835 .69 smooth bore musket altered to percussion some time in the late 1840s or 1850s. The brass was once the pan, which was cut off when the conversion took place. It could well have Civil War provenance, since so many of these converted flintlocks were on hand when the war began. Was it rifled, or is it still a smooth bore?

The cone is a newly manufactured replacement from what I can see in the photo.

I didnt think at the time to look down the barrel. I will stop back in later this week to pick up ammo so I can check then.

 

[Virginia Dave]

Nice one and that it being in an antique shop on consignment, I'm sure they will take the normal 10% off that price.

Actually it is in a gun store called Dominion Outdoors in Fishersville, Virginia if anyone is interested. I would love it but it just isnt in my budget.

 

[Virginia Dave]

I like it! It is an 1839 dated Harpers Ferry-manufactured Model 1835 .69 smooth bore musket altered to percussion some time in the late 1840s or 1850s. The brass was once the pan, which was cut off when the conversion took place. It could well have Civil War provenance, since so many of these converted flintlocks were on hand when the war began. Was it rifled, or is it still a smooth bore?

The cone is a newly manufactured replacement from what I can see in the photo.

Thank you for the information.

 

[James N.]

To me it seems high - but that's because I bought a similar one at a gun show for around $150-160. But of course that was sometime in the 1970's or early 1980's and I suppose things have changed a bit since then!

 

[UCVRelics]

To me it seems high - but that's because I bought a similar one at a gun show for around $150-160. But of course that was sometime in the 1970's or early 1980's and I suppose things have changed a bit since then!

They have paved all the roads and built the Interstate since then

 

[James N.]

They have paved all the roads and built the Interstate since then

What's an Inter state - a form of suspended animation?

 

[johan_steele]

What's an Inter state - a form of suspended animation?

I want to know how they cram all those horses into that box on the front end of these horseless carriages.

 

[Lubliner]

I want to know how they cram all those horses into that box on the front end of these horseless carriages.

...and why they don't put a basket at the rear pipe to catch the poop.
Lubliner.

 

[Craig L Barry]

The lockplate and side plate looks like the earlier model US 1816/22. I thought the US 1835/40 had the same side plate as the US 1842?

 

[Beltplate53]

The lock plate matches a Model 1816 conversion to percussion as per my book on the Springfield Armory. What is the barrel date?

 

[Beltplate53]

And.....