Remington 1861 army

[Rogge]

Hi guys ned your help again. A Guy wants to sell me a Remington 1861 army model . It seems to be in ok condition but there is one thing the concerns me. The SN number is 62 , i have google a little but cant find that low SN . Is this possible ? When i Google it seems like they started with a higher SN . Thanks Roger

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

The serials are found several places on these

Have you checked under the grips?

If you provide photos, that will get you the best answers here.

A 44-caliber Remington percussion revolver with a two digit serial number should be a Beals Army. In his book Remington Army and Navy Revolvers 1861-1888 Don Ware stated that there were exceptions to the sequential serial numbers such as when a batch of revolvers needed special finishing. Then the serial number started at one and continued to the end of the lot. Ware sites as the first example of this when Remington presented army revolvers to the Governors of the Union states. The practice continued throughout the Civil War and in postwar production possibly to identify special orders by dealers. Perhaps you have one of these special runs.

Photos, please.

 

[scooter748driver]

Pics of the pistol you're considering would be helpful

 

[Rogge]

The serials are found several places on these

Have you checked under the grips?

If you provide photos, that will get you the best answers here.

A 44-caliber Remington percussion revolver with a two digit serial number should be a Beals Army. In his book Remington Army and Navy Revolvers 1861-1888 Don Ware stated that there were exceptions to the sequential serial numbers such as when a batch of revolvers needed special finishing. Then the serial number started at one and continued to the end of the lot. Ware sites as the first example of this when Remington presented army revolvers to the Governors of the Union states. The practice continued throughout the Civil War and in postwar production possibly to identify special orders by dealers. Perhaps you have one of these special runs.

Photos, please.

 

[Rogge]

Only bad photos but i think there is a army mark on the grip .

 

[steamboater]

Yes, Jeff in Ohio is correct, you have a Remington-Beals, a forerunner of the improved Remington 1861 Revolver, or the further improved Remington New Model Revolver (which was the most made iteration). All three were made in either 44 caliber (the "Army" model), or 36 caliber (the "Navy" model). PLZ tell us which caliber you have.

I agree, your photos are a bit dark. Can you send us pix of the rear of the cylinder, one from the side, and another from the rear. The Beals did not have cylinder safety notches, the same for the M1861 Army, (Flayderman states some late production M1861 Navies did have notches). If Flayderman is accurate to this detail, you seem to have a Beals with safety notches, which might be a replaced cylinder from a later version.