Really? Christmas Week?

JPK Huson 1863

Brev. Brig. Gen'l
Joined
Feb 14, 2012
Location
Central Pennsylvania
First, would like to say, as above- REALLY? Christmas week chosen for snit and snark out of the blue? What is wrong with this picture? In almost 5 years I have never engaged this kind of thing but then have never been overtly attacked, either. Not once. Could be because I do not attack. It is a silly thing to do.

When this astonishing place first welcomed me years ago, it flattened me. It was intimidating Holy Gee Whiz, remember lurking to Nate and I think James N, maybe ME Wolfe, OH Bonnie Blue, a Texas discussion.... . I like Texas and realized well, at least I can spell it. These people sure have a handle on the rest..... . It's actually not a handicap, not having a huge background going in. Not as much to unlearn.

You learn a lot, if you want to and by osmosis almost too. By great good fortune CWT didn't harm themselves laughing, asking for a show of hands, would anyone like to take on responsibilities, put mine in the air. Believe me- not through ego ( you find yourself living in certain areas of the planet for a reason..... ) , it seemed fair to give back. Hence Ladies Tea where the Powers That Be assured me a certain lack of knowledge meant nothing- knowledge can be obtained, it's our women of the war, the times they lived in, their world and bringing it CWT- that is what counted. For all of them.

It's been and continues to be riveting- what we shared, North, South- all races and ages. Commonalities far outstrip agenda, then and now.

Here's something slightly hysterical. The women who lived through these times listed in their midst a fair amount of illiterates. Not only were our enslaved women forbidden reading as some form of either control or fear but white women inhabiting certain classes had no chance at school- little tough when one is working in a factory at age 5. ( Yes, that can be sourced, no worries )

But, somehow only those who hold degrees deeming them intelligent by way of gender studies are qualified to hand around these pieces of information. Hence a misogynist pitting women against each other, calling me, I guess, an idiot in a post today. This person stated he would come have a look at this forum, the implication being to vet all the threads, ( the further implication there being a man would be the final judge regardless ) in case any more " garbage " written by an idiot, a female lacking gender studies degrees, had been heinously perpetrated on an unsuspecting membership.

It always has been and always will be a position here at Ladies Tea, viewing the war through the eyes of those ladies who were there. The suggestion some hysterical, false and invented perspective on my part has been used to present any of our women is flatly silly- especially since the flip side is some earnest, khaki, well-meaning and arrogant perspective. This is also a little hysterical. We're to believe protecting and respecting females is foremost while subjecting me ( I ARE one..... ) to ridicule and snark. Interesting.

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Guessing these two had a very, Merry Christmas together and many Happy Years and Years- nobody requires a specialist coming in vetting the forum to tell us all about their life together.
 
JPK, I believe the comments you refer to were removed. Let me just say that I'm quite proud to have been asked by you to join you in Ladies Tea as a contributor to the forum and have tried to adhere to the high standards which you had set for the threads here. The threads here cover an enormous amount of ground, with all kinds of aspects of life during the War that gives a background to what was happening on the homefront, which I find invaluable.

A lot of the material we present in Ladies Tea isn't derived from some neatly categorized histories of a certain battle and requires some research to pull it together. Fortunately, we have many respected female historians who are working in the field, doing serious research, often looking at primary sources. Sometimes this ends in their correction of totally mistaken historical concepts that have simply been repeated time after time by the professional historians. I think of the work on "plaçage" done by Dr. Emily Clark of Tulane, who read all the contracts in Louisiana of the period and found none that actually documented this practice, which I've seen referenced over and over by historians who simply repeated the erroneous statements of earlier historians. Since Clark read them in the original French in which they were written, I'll have to give more credit to her historical analysis.

We rely on sources like Dr. Thavolia Glymph, who has studied black women of the Civil War era and Drew Gilpin Faust on elite women or Stephanie McCurry on soldiers' wives and mothers, as well as numerous readings of women's diaries and writings from the era. We also pull together lots of visual representations of the communities throughout the War zones, of the hospitals of the era, of nurses, and newly freed people, which are not gathered together neatly in other areas.

Merry Christmas, Annie. Keep up the good work and take no further note of those who haven't looked at the historical citations in our many threads.
 
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Merry Christmas! I have been working a lot harder lately at advertising CWT, and I have really just learned what an amazing treasure trove the Ladies Tea really is.

I hate to admit, history and I, have never really gotten along. But I find some of this truly fascinating!

Thank you 18th and Annie, for all your hard work, this forum is amazing!
 
Hence a misogynist pitting women against each other, calling me, I guess, an idiot in a post today.
:devilish:

99% of the time, the person who posts harsh words on an internet forum would never, ever say those same words to your face. It's actually comical sometimes. I've met a few people offline after getting to know them online, and I was stunned by the fact that a couple of brave loudmouths were actually shy little church mice in person.

It's a compensation thing, I suspect.
 
A Gunny once said to me: "Opinions are like *certain body parts* -- everyone's got one" and then he added "and they both stink up the joint".

Gunnys are the philosophers and demi-gods of the Marine Corps :smile:

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I'm proud to have brought the occasional plate of biscuits to the Ladies' Tea -- but then, I'm just another one of those uncredentialed 'idiots,' I guess. I've been a student of gender (or at least of la différence) all my life (haven't we all?) without feeling any need to pursue a degree in the subject.

A Very Merry Christmas to you, Annie and to all our valued Comrades at the Ladies' Tea.

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I remember the good old days, when men and women were considered equal, about the time I was a young adult. Then something changed, and women and men are separate but equal now, and gender studies acknowledges that.

I missed the big fight. I never relied on people being nicer around Christmas, though. Are Christians nicer to Jews around big Jewish holidays? Or Muslims? Or Hindus? I don't even know their big holidays to be nice around, or whether they even have an eqivalent to the Christmas spirit we hear so much about. I'm the same year-round, for better or worse. I don't hold it in at Christmas, don't let it out at other times.

I'd love to discuss woman's history with a "gender studies" advocate, though. Wouldn't be pretty. Can we get him back. :furious: Pretty please?
 

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