Polk or Hardee?

Yeah, I'm definitely not going to rock the boat on this. Hardee over Polk any day of the week. It's like choosing between a fresh cup of milk and a cup of milk left in the sun for a week.

That said, I do think Hardee is fairly overrated for being one the few competent Confederate corps commander in the Western Theater. He had several superb days (Stones River, Averasboro, Bentonville), but his lesser qualities tend to be under-emphasized.

Hardee's main issue was his awful personality problems. He seemingly disliked the responsibility of army command and then got shocked whenever somebody else was chosen. He also was critical of anyone who took the position - he criticized Bragg, Joseph Johnston, and Hood. IIRC Earl J. Hess noted Bragg's enemies largely came from Hardee's Corps rather than Polk's (which is what I had assumed). His personality problems had pretty negative consequences for the Army of Tennessee, most notably Tullahoma and Peachtree Creek.

At Tullahoma, Hardee was slow to report on vital information about Rosecrans' left hook to Bragg, which endangered Bragg's rear. Now, Bragg's communication of his strategy to his subordinates was very poor, it must be said. But by withholding vital information, Bragg almost committed to a counterattack with Polk's Corps that would have ended in disaster. Only Polk's obstinate refusal prevented a disaster (wow Polk being useful for once).

At Peachtree Creek, he basically threw a hissy fit about Hood being promoted over him, disobeying orders and being reluctant to verify them, and failing to press the attack. He squandered a pretty good opportunity to gobble up Newton's isolated division of O.O. Howard's IV Corps.

Overall, I'm inclined to say that given he is the best Confederate Corps commander in the Western Theater, it is not a surprise the Army of Tennessee succumbed.
 
By many accounts, Bragg's bark was worse than his bite on that.

Bragg simply did not think much of Polk as a soldier - and not without reason. If Bragg had acquired anywhere near the clout of Lee, he might have been able to get him removed.
Bragg was shooting troops from Tennessee in the regular as he thought they were from too close to Yankee lines. He had one of his weird obsessions. It was a bad scene. Not sure how he treated Kentucky regiments though.
 
Yeah, Bragg's reputation as a martinet who shot soldiers for the slightest infraction is badly exaggerated. Yes, Bragg had 3 high-profile incidents involving the threat or actual execution- the retreat from Corinth (which Bragg did not actually carry out), Asa Lewis of 6th Kentucky and 3 deserters shot at Shelbyville. But throughout his 18 months of command, Bragg reviewed 41 death sentences for his soldiers and 4 for civilians, approved 28 and carried out 16 executions.

By contrast, Joseph Johnston carried out at least forty between January 2 - May 5, with mass executions taking place on May 4 and May 5. And somehow Johnston is viewed positively by rank and file - that he rebuilt the Army of Tennessee with use of carrots (furloughs, improved rations) is true enough but he was as willing if not more so to use the stick than Bragg.
 
Both were extremely reliable corps commanders (Polk less so), and both had command of various large-scale army groups at different times (Polk, the Army of Mississippi; Hardee, the Department of South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida). Polk gets hammered a lot because of his tendency to play politics, and Hardee sometimes gets hammered for being too defensive. As far as I know, they never had an argument, but then again never really had a friendship.

Who do you think was the better commander, corps or otherwise?
Hardee. Its the difference between a professional and an amateur. Polk had no business commanding a corps. Another Jeff Davis hire.
 
Yeah, I'm definitely not going to rock the boat on this. Hardee over Polk any day of the week. It's like choosing between a fresh cup of milk and a cup of milk left in the sun for a week.

That said, I do think Hardee is fairly overrated for being one the few competent Confederate corps commander in the Western Theater. He had several superb days (Stones River, Averasboro, Bentonville), but his lesser qualities tend to be under-emphasized.

Hardee's main issue was his awful personality problems. He seemingly disliked the responsibility of army command and then got shocked whenever somebody else was chosen. He also was critical of anyone who took the position - he criticized Bragg, Joseph Johnston, and Hood. IIRC Earl J. Hess noted Bragg's enemies largely came from Hardee's Corps rather than Polk's (which is what I had assumed). His personality problems had pretty negative consequences for the Army of Tennessee, most notably Tullahoma and Peachtree Creek.

At Tullahoma, Hardee was slow to report on vital information about Rosecrans' left hook to Bragg, which endangered Bragg's rear. Now, Bragg's communication of his strategy to his subordinates was very poor, it must be said. But by withholding vital information, Bragg almost committed to a counterattack with Polk's Corps that would have ended in disaster. Only Polk's obstinate refusal prevented a disaster (wow Polk being useful for once).

At Peachtree Creek, he basically threw a hissy fit about Hood being promoted over him, disobeying orders and being reluctant to verify them, and failing to press the attack. He squandered a pretty good opportunity to gobble up Newton's isolated division of O.O. Howard's IV Corps.

Overall, I'm inclined to say that given he is the best Confederate Corps commander in the Western Theater, it is not a surprise the Army of Tennessee succumbed.
Polk was an adamant Bragg hater. Hardee wasn't at Chickamauga. Davis was friends with Polk, personal friends. He kept going behind Bragg's back and directly to Davis. Tried with Hardee and Kirby Smith to get Bragg relieved after the KY Campaign. There was NO love between Polk and Bragg. Bragg constantly tried to get Polk removed. Finally after Chickamauga he told Davis it was him or Polk. Davis will save Polk again and switch him with Hardee.
 

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