PM tintype full plate

[General Butler]

As I unpack the stash I found this full plate of a fully armed foot soldier with a rifle on the small side yet a bayonet on the large side. Seems rather top heavy. Nice watch fob and chain too. A touch dark

 

[Lampasas Bill]

Short rifles were intended to have long saber bayonets to offset the advantage of an enemy with a longer rifle with a regular socket bayonet. It was impractical to equip short rifles with extra-long socket bayonets which might bend or even break in combat. And yes, the saber bayonets were top heavy.

 

[captaindrew]

Looks like a P56 (2 band) Enfield like this

 

[lelliott19]

It might be a P58 Bar-on-band with saber bayonet? Look how curved the blade is. I'm no expert on telling the difference between a P56 and P58, but I know some who are @Lanyard Puller @Craig L Barry @johan_steele @Jobe Holiday

 

[captaindrew]

It might be a P58 Bar-on-band with saber bayonet? Look how curved the blade is. I'm no expert on telling the difference between a P56 and P58, but I know some who are @Lanyard Puller @Craig L Barry @johan_steele @Jobe Holiday

The P56 bayonet is curved too, the one I used in the picture isn't really the right one, was just using it as an example. I can't tell exactly what it is in the picture.

 

[UCVRelics]

I'm leaning model 1841 as the Enfield had a different profile

 

[General Butler]

Looks like a P56 (2 band) Enfield like this View attachment 352722

Or maybe the guy

 

[General Butler]

Looks like a P56 (2 band) Enfield like this View attachment 352722

Or maybe the guy is really tall and his Springfield only looks short.

 

[captaindrew]

Or maybe the guy is really tall and his Springfield only looks short.

no it's definitely one of the short rifle models, the longer rifles/muskets used socket bayonets

 

[UCVRelics]

I'm still leaning model 1841 or maybe a Whitney. This is not an Enfield or long rifle profile.

 

[johan_steele]

It isn't English or US but a French/Belgian bayonet as for the M1840 and later series of short rifles. The downturned knob at the end of the cross guard gives it away to me.

In comparison to the US & English models.

 

[General Butler]

It isn't English or US but a French/Belgian bayonet as for the M1840 and later series of short rifles. The downturned knob at the end of the cross guard gives it away to me.

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In comparison to the US & English models.


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There you go..word from the top.