Off topic split from Grant v Lee Slave slug fest

Mint Julep

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I am not sure how recognizeing and confronting racism "promotes" it. Inconvenient, yes.

I am not sure which statue you are referring to, regarding no connection from racism. However, one would definitely be hard pressed to explain away the Liberty Place monument. As I mentioned, the whole concept of venerating the masters of slavery does not sit well with some folks.

Again, the Liberty Place monument is not a CW monument.

If anyone has a problem with "venerating the masters of slavery" then Grant's monument needs to come down. How about Washington's monument or his image? Maybe, have his image removed completely, but why stop there? Anyone with a surname of a slave owner will need to have it changed, it is now offensive.
 
Slave owners that fought against liberty for all men are guilty by today's standards, regardless of the numbers that they enslaved. Those that fought for liberty or all men get a pass. The conflicted ones are judged individually.

Who decides to give them that pass?
 
Again, the Liberty Place monument is not a CW monument.

If anyone has a problem with "venerating the masters of slavery" then Grant's monument needs to come down. How about Washington's monument or his image? Maybe, have his image removed completely, but why stop there? Anyone with a surname of a slave owner will need to have it changed, it is now offensive.

Well, then, we're glad you want all Confederate monuments to come down. And we are interested that those people who like your post feel the same way.

That is, unless none of you have a problem with the "masters of slavery." Then you should explain why that is.

Personally I think that we overlook the fact that these folks were enemies of the United States, so I'm interested in learning why you support building and preserving monuments to enemies of the United States. Which other ones would you and your "likers" wish to celebrate? Thanks!
 
Well, then, we're glad you want all Confederate monuments to come down. And we are interested that those people who like your post feel the same way.

That is, unless none of you have a problem with the "masters of slavery." Then you should explain why that is.

Personally I think that we overlook the fact that these folks were enemies of the United States, so I'm interested in learning why you support building and preserving monuments to enemies of the United States. Which other ones would you and your "likers" wish to celebrate? Thanks!

So it was just fine to be a northern slave owner? What hypocrisy!
 
Well, then, we're glad you want all Confederate monuments to come down. And we are interested that those people who like your post feel the same way.

That is, unless none of you have a problem with the "masters of slavery." Then you should explain why that is.

Personally I think that we overlook the fact that these folks were enemies of the United States, so I'm interested in learning why you support building and preserving monuments to enemies of the United States. Which other ones would you and your "likers" wish to celebrate? Thanks!
I would suggest you dig through the archives of CivilWarTalk and you will find more answers to your question than you can read for a couple of years. That is if you are serious or just flaming the thread.
 
I would suggest you dig through the archives of CivilWarTalk and you will find more answers to your question than you can read for a couple of years. That is if you are serious or just flaming the thread.
One gets the feeling that it's more about Southern white folks than it is about black folks. A Yankee tradition that dates to the Civil War.
 
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So it was just fine to be a northern slave owner? What hypocrisy!
Yankees outlawed slavery at great cost before the war. The Southern dons tried to imposed slavery on the Yankees and when that failed continued enslavement of human beings as a slave nation then spilled great amounts of blood trying to keep it.
 
I would suggest you dig through the archives of CivilWarTalk and you will find more answers to your question than you can read for a couple of years. That is if you are serious or just flaming the thread.
Oh, I think the answers are obvious. I think this whole thread is an exercise in trolling by certain people.
 
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So it was just fine to be a northern slave owner? What hypocrisy!
Keep trolling. But I wouldn't go around calling other people hypocrites. Your own position isn't exactly invulnerable to that charge. But thanks for not challenging the assumption that you want all Confederate monuments to be taken down because of their connection to slavery. That's progress of a sort.
 
One gets the feeling that it's more about Southern white folks than it is about black folks. A Yankee tradition that dates to the Civil War.
One gets the impression that this is about certain southern white folks whining about Yankees while failing to examine themselves critically, which is a tradition that predates the Civil War.
 
Well, then, we're glad you want all Confederate monuments to come down. And we are interested that those people who like your post feel the same way.

That is, unless none of you have a problem with the "masters of slavery." Then you should explain why that is.

Personally I think that we overlook the fact that these folks were enemies of the United States, so I'm interested in learning why you support building and preserving monuments to enemies of the United States. Which other ones would you and your "likers" wish to celebrate? Thanks!

Crazy Horse was an enemy of the United States. Should work on his monument stop and what's already there blown from the side of the mountain?

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