Need help identifying the manufacturer.

[sacho12]

Friends, I want to ask for help in identifying the saber manufacturer.
I have in my collection such sabers light cavalry model of 1860.

The leather on the hilt of the saber had to be restored, because because of ignorance after the purchase I wetted the handle with water to clean it, and the skin peeled off. So I had to wrap the handle with new skin. What I'm sorry for ....

But the conversation is not about that.
There is no manufacturer or military inspector on the ricasso blade.

But on the brass part of the handle there is a stamp of the military inspector AGM (in the book Bezdek A.C.M - Alfred C. Manning) and the figure "14".

According to the information provided by Bezdek, A.C. Manning took arms in 1863.
According to the information posted on this site:
http://www.angelfire.com/wa/swordcollector/inspectors.html
Inspector A. G. Manning (?), took arms from C. Roby from 1863 to 1865.

I also have a sword of the NCO of infantry of the sample of 1840, which was released by C.Roby in 1865 - he also has the same brand of military inspector - AGM.

At first I thought that my sword was made by Roby, but then I found information that on the arms of Roby's swords there were 13 turns of brass wire, unlike other manufacturers.

But on the handle of my saber there were only 11 turns of brass wire.

Now I still do not know who made the sword, which is in my collection, and I hope that someone on this forum will help me figure it out.
Thankful in advance for everyone who will show interest in my question.

 

[lelliott19]

Друзья, я хочу попросить помощи в идентификации производителя сабли.
У меня в моей коллекции такая сабли легкой кавалерии модели 1860 года.

@sacho12 Your text is showing up in Russian. Do you need for me to translate it for you? I cant read Russian, but I can run it through a translator if desired?

Friends, I want to ask for help in identifying the manufacturer of the Sabres. I have in my collection of such light cavalry Saber 1860 model year.

True Saba had to restore because due to ignorance after I purchase damaged handle water to its clean and clear skin. So I had to tighten the handle of the new skin. What I'm really sorry

But the conversation is not about that. On the blade ricaso no manufacturer or military Inspector

 

[sacho12]

When creating a post, I incorrectly uploaded a photo and corrected it, I did not see that the web page translator translated my English text into Russian.
Now I am corrected and this is the text of my theme again in English.
I apologize for the production costs ...

 

[lelliott19]

When creating a post, I incorrectly uploaded a photo and corrected it, I did not see that the web page translator translated my English text into Russian.
Now I am corrected and this is the text of my theme again in English.
I apologize for the production costs ...

No problem - and as far as I know, there are no associated production costs. Here's the rest of the info after translation......

But the brass part of the handle is stamped military Inspector AGM (book Bezdeka ASM-Alfred s. Manning) and figure "14"

According to information provided by Bezdekom, A.s. Manning took arms in the year 1863. According to the information on this http://www.angelfire.com/wa/swordcollector/inspectors.html Inspector a. g. Manning (?), took weapons from k. Roby from 1863 to 1865 year.

I also have a sword infantry sergeant 1840 year sample, which was released to Roby in 1865. year-he also has the same brand of military Inspector - AGM.

At first I thought my sword was made by Robey, but then I found that info on hand swords Roby was 13 turns brass wire, in contrast to other manufacturers.

But on the handle of my swords were only 11 turns brass wire.

Now I am still not familiar with those who made the sword, which is in my collection, and I hope someone in this forum can help me understand. In advance to all who will take an interest in my question.

EDIT TO ADD: Your translator is much better than mine! I gave it an attempt but was not as successful as yours.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

I am of the opinion that the 1860 model sword shown has a new unmarked replacement blade. My reason for this is because the sword has been taken apart and reassembled. Which is why the # 14 is marked on mating pieces so that they are not mixed up during reassembly. Note that the pommel cap has been properly rounded again after reassembly. This type of professional workmanship is of the era the sword was still in service, and would have been done at the military level, such as at an armory. A nice sword showing actual use in the field, hence the modified guard.
J.

 

[UCVRelics]

I agree with @Jobe Holiday the blade has been replaced and looks as if there was not enough left after the removal to seat the blade against the guard. The one photo that shows the blade at the guard looks as if the blade is just a little smaller than it should be for a Roby. AGM was indeed an inspector at the Roby works and the blade should be marked as all Roby's were. Look on the drag and see if you see any markings. The 14 could also be rake numbers.

 

[Jobe Holiday]

Respectfully, a rack number is stamped once, in easily seen large numbers. Small mating numbers as seen on this sword, are common on muskets that are disassembled for alteration purposes when they do not have interchangeable parts. The Civil War swords were hand fit and not interchangeable either, hence the numbers to keep the same parts together for reassembly. The number 14 means that there were 13 other swords being done at the same time as this one!
J.

 

[sacho12]

Thanks for answers.
I did not even consider the version of the arsenal repair of the saber at all.
Of course, while fighting, details of sabers, bayonets or other cold weapons can be damaged and several damaged specimens could collect one saber or make a new blade instead of the damaged one, to which the unbroken handle was attached.
Now everything has fallen into place for me.
The unsharpened blade of this saber, in my opinion, also says that after the arsenal repair this saber could not be used for its intended purpose, but lay in the warehouse of weapons, and then got to the collectors.