Navy New Model?

[JimW23]

Not sure what I have here. I was gifted this revolver about ten years ago. Located two serial numbers that do match. Also found a name and date on the inside of the handle. Was this common for owners to write on the inside of the handle? As a novice with old revolvers, it appears to be in really good shape.

 

[JOHN42768]

Welcome, enjoy. Nice Remington. Names marked inside grips are not uncommon. As to if he was a soldier in 1863, unknown.

 

[rebracer]

How is the name and date inscribed? Is it stamped, inked or carved, its hard for me to see.

 

[JimW23]

From what I can tell it looks like ink. J James 1863

 

[Story]

From what I can tell it looks like ink. J James 1863

I think we're supposed to think that's "Jesse James 1863"

Faux Jesse James weaponry has been a thing since the moment his heart stopped beating.

The Guns of Jesse James... and his Mother :: Guns.com

Indeed, she even passed on a number of guns manufactured even after Jesse's death with no doubt a straight face and a sly grin.

www.guns.com

Meanwhile, here's an example

Jesse James: A Remington .44 Caliber New Model Army Revolver | Lot #43413 | Heritage Auctions

World's Largest Collectibles Auctioneer

historical.ha.com

 

[Story]

WRT your barrel number 34526

New Model Army Revolver

also named

Remington New Model 1863 Army Percussion Revolver

.44 caliber percussion, 6 shot single action revolver, 8" octagon barrel
marked: PATENTED SEPT. 14, 1858, E. REMINGTON & SONS, ILION, NEW YORK, U.S.A. NEW MODEL
manufactured from 1863 to 1875, production was about 132.000
Serial number range 19.793 - 147.283
*
The gun number 75396 is reported to belonged William C. Quantrill (died Mai 10, 1865). It is believed that this gun was former posessed by Bloody Bill Anderson.

E. Remington & Sons

Note: per the source above, the .36 Navy Model 1861 has a serial number range from 2.044 - 21.532 mixed with other models

 

[JimW23]

If it was The Outlaw Jesse James, he would have been 16 yrs old in 1863. This is probably not the famous Jesse James's revolver. Thank you for the info on the Army Revolver. I measured the barrel of my revolver... 7 3/8. Caliber looks smaller than a .44 also.

 

[JimW23]

Thanks Story! I just looked at E. Remington & Sons link you provided. It looks like the revolver I have is a .36 Navy Model 1861. My serial number, 34526, is quite a bit higher than listed but the dimensions and look of the gun matchup. Thanks again.

 

[UCVRelics]

Not sure what I have here. I was gifted this revolver about ten years ago. Located two serial numbers that do match. Also found a name and date on the inside of the handle. Was this common for owners to write on the inside of the handle? As a novice with old revolvers, it appears to be in really good shape. View attachment 383812View attachment 383813View attachment 383814

Welcome From The Heart Of Dixie. Nice New Model 36 cal Navy. Could you look on the top of the barrel and see if it has a 3 line address? The Navy did not martially mark these revolvers so there won't ne any inspectors cartouche's or other inspectors markings.

 

[Dave DuBrucq]

The inscription appears to have been carved by the original owner. I believe it says J. James and 1863. The revolver is in good shape for an original. I would have it appraised and insured.

 

[JimW23]

Yes. Top of the barrel.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

I've owned two revolvers with the inscription "J JAMES" cut into the wood grips. I still have one of them. If you find a buyer who is willing to pay a good premium on the idea that your revolver and mine were both owned by Jesse James, let me know, and I will give you a 'finders fee" if I sell mine to that buyer!

 

[JimW23]

I've owned two revolvers with the inscription "J JAMES" cut into the wood grips. I still have one of them. If you find a buyer who is willing to pay a good premium on the idea that your revolver and mine were both owned by Jesse James, let me know, and I will give you a 'finders fee" if I sell mine to that buyer!

J James must have owned ALOT of guns. LOL If I ever put it up for sale and sell it for a premium price, you'll be the first person I contact.

 

[UCVRelics]

There are Jesse James revolvers in every gun and western museum in this country and I'm sure a few foreign countries as well.

 

[Jeff in Ohio]

J James must have owned ALOT of guns. LOL If I ever put it up for sale and sell it for a premium price, you'll be the first person I contact.

Jesse's mother collected a fee to view his grave, and she charged an additional fee if the viewer wanted to take one of the river-rounded stones that covered that grave.
She replenished the stones on the grave now and then, carrying a bucket of stones from a nearby creek and dumping them on the grave, and so she could honestly sell these newly deposited stones as being "from the grave of Jesse James."

 

[Story]

Jesse's mother collected a fee to view his grave, and she charged an additional fee if the viewer wanted to take one of the river-rounded stones that covered that grave.
She replenished the stones on the grave now and then, carrying a bucket of stones from a nearby creek and dumping them on the grave, and so she could honestly sell these newly deposited stones as being "from the grave of Jesse James."

Scroll up, I provided a link to that exact tale.

 

[JimW23]

I'm glad to know this information about Jesse James's mother being quite the entrepreneur at the expense of her dead son.

 

[UCVRelics]

The elephant in the room is the gun was not made until 1864.

 

[JimW23]

That solves the mystery right there. I appreciate everyone knowledge with in this era. A lot of questions have been answered.

 

[mofederal]

hello and welcome to the CivilWarTalk from Southeast Missouri. I have seen more than a few James's guns in my life. I would only trust the few that have been proven.