My final Muster thread.....

LCYingling3rd

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I just want to express my gratitude to @lelliott19, @Diane123, @BlazingSaddles, @gjpratt, @pmuskett, @bdtex, and everyone who planned and coordinated what turned out to be an absolutely fantastic Muster! Thank you @ErnieMac for posting excellent update photos to the site, to @Joshism and @Kathy the history sleuth for being my wonderful touring partners, to @Stryker65 for your insight and contagious enthusiasm, to @VaMtLady for discussing our shared 7th VA Cavalry heritage, to @stu613 for sharing your fascinating story at our show and tell, to @luinrina for traveling so far to be with us, and to @TLHS for your amazing show and tell, for providing our awesome "The Grand Review" books, and for allowing us access to your very inspiring collection! I also have to thank everyone for being such welcoming, compassionate, and tolerant traveling companions! (I was that perennial straggler...thank you all for your tolerance!!!)

I must also express my appreciation to all of our presenters as well. I learned volumes! From our own members and our friend, Mike Kehoe, to everyone at the Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Foundation, The Stonewall Jackson Headquarters Museum, the Belle Grove Plantation, and the National Park Service. You are all wealth's of information that are invaluable to my research!

Here are some parting shots from our adventure:
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For some reason (my stupidity? LOL) I couldn't comment on my pictures. From top to bottom the first 17 pictures are:

1. Your's truly getting to hold Turner Ashby's sword at his grave site. What an honor and a tribute! My great, great grandfather, Tom Bishop, joined the 7th VA Cavalry after Ashby's death. However, his older brother, Charles, served with Ashby and there is no reason to think he wasn't with him when he was shot from his horse and killed. Certainly a highlight of my experience!
2. A view of Col. James Breathed's battery at 3rd Winchester.
3. Red Bud Run 3rd Winchester.
4. The CWT Brigade at the Stonewall Jackson Headquarters Museum. (minus me...lol)
5. The Maryland monument at the Stonewall Confederate Cemetery.
6. Shadows on Jackson's headquarters.
7. Unusual Revolutionary style uniform of the 5 VA Infantry - worn at First Manassas as the brigade became known as the Stonewall Brigade!
8. The saddle that Turner Ashby was shot out of - Jackson Museum.
9. Turner Ashby's pistol, gauntlets, and original death photograph! Jackson Museum.
10. Left - one of the largest Confederate First National flags remaining; it flew over the Romney, WV Court House. Right - at the end of the hall is one of John Imboden's Regiment's battle flag. It would have flown over the brigade as it escorted the Confederate wagon trains retreating from Gettysburg.
11. T. J. Jackson's office and desk/table where many councils of war with his commanders would have been held and where plans for his 1862 Romney campaign and early Shenandoah Valley campaigns were planned.
12. Some of Jackson's belongings including an original cdv of him, binoculars he would have used to observe many famous actions, and the infamous sword he used to rally his troops that was rusted in it's scabbard so he waved it over his head urging his troops on scabbard and all!
13. The battle flag of the 33rd VA Infantry. One of only a few Stonewall Brigade flags still in existence.
14. The actual, original front of the Moore Family Home where Jackson had his headquarters. The modern entrance is on the side.
15. A Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Foundation trail heading out toward the Middle field from the Visitors Center.
16. A snake rail fence not far from Breathed's Battery at 3rd Winchester.
17. The CWT Brigade getting a lesson on how the soldiers of the Union 19th Corps advancing through the "first woods" into the Middle Field not only had to deal with the shot, explosions, and shrapnel of James Breathed's artillery, but suffered greatly from trees shattering and showering them with branches and terrible splinters. Letters home described hands filled with splinters.

More photos to come. Maybe I can figure out how to comment on them...lol
 
View attachment 486809View attachment 486810This letter was left by the 9th Alabama at the George Culp house, just west of Gettysburg. Currently on display at the Seminary Museum in Gettysburg. Can't help but wonder if Paul's gggrandfather may have been the one who might've left it.
Sorry, just realized i posted this here. Meant to post on the other muster PM site, not your page.
 
Here are some images to finish up our splendid Friday the 13th touring!

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One of Col. James Breathed's horse artillery on top of the hill at the Huntsberry farm property; aimed southeast toward the first woods and Middle field across Red Bud Run.

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the Red Bud Run valley, viewed from below Breathed's battery.

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The site of the Huntsberry farm.

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At this site the 19th Corps regiments of the 30th MA and the 29th ME of general Beal's Brigade crossed Red Bud Run and attempted an assault on Breathed's guns but were driven back.

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We hiked up this lovely wooded trail to the Middle field after crossing Red Bud Run.

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Looking east in the Middle Field toward the First Woods. The Union forces fought harrowing battles in the woods and emerged from them into this field advancing toward us.

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The first of two fence lines the Union forces would encounter in the Middle field. Our guides explained how archeology played an important roll in helping the SVBF place the fences. Thousands of percussion caps and other debris of a firing line told the tale.

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Grover's Division passed this fence and was attacking the second fence line when the Confederate counter-attack struck. Dwight's Division was in line of battle at this fence as Grover was being driven back in confusion. Dwight's men could not fire because they would hit Grover's men. The Confederates didn't care and inflicted heavy casualties on both Divisions. I can't even imagine how frustrating it must have been for Dwight's brigades! To be taking casualties and not be able to fight back.

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Nicholas "Nick" Picerno is the Chairman Emeritus of the SVBF, on "Acquisition and Preservation of the Third Winchester Battlefield." he has an incredible wealth of knowledge about the battle and was full of amazing detail about what actually happened on the ground we were touring. Here he begins telling the CWT brigade about the actions on this far right side of Dwight's Division at the first fence line.

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At this spot the Union 19th Corps brigade of Dwight's Division commanded by general George L. Beal fought, Nick described the terrific fighting of the 114th NY, the 30th MA, the 29th Me, and the 153rd and 116th NY. The fighting was horrific and deadly. Nick has studied this battle and has an extensive collection of artifacts, letters, and orders regarding the people who fought here. Here he shows us the shoulder bars of general Beal from his collection.

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Division commander Dwight was appalled by the retreat of Grover's Division which caused so much trouble for his own Division. In Dwight's after battle report he sternly criticized Grover. His words were so strong they got him arrested! Still under arrest a month later at Cedar Creek, his Division was commanded by a subordinate. Finally, he had to change his report to attain his freedom. Dwight's infamous report disappeared from the record, no one knew what he said that could lead to his arrest. Low and Behold, where does this infamous report surface? In Nick's hand, right in front of us! Yes, Nick has the original report that got Dwight arrested!

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Where did the horrible rebuke go? If you look closely on the lower portion of the right hand page you can see that Dwight simply rewrote the new "appropriate" report and pasted it right over the old one!!! It's the 19th century version of "cut and paste!!!" LOL
And no, we could not convince Nick to somehow steam it off or remove it to finally see what was said!!!!

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A view from the Middle field to Breathed's battery.

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The second fence line. Rodes Confederates attacked toward us. The slope behind the fence meant the Union troops could only see the tops of their battle flags.

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The Alabama Monument to Cullen A. Battle's Alabama brigade of Rodes' Division. (I think we had some connection to Alabama in our ranks!!! A lot of wonderful people!)

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The beautiful arch of Osage Orange trees leading to the Hackwood house at the western end of the battlefield. The original lanes have been marked and preserved by the SVBF.

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A view of the Hackwood house.

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The marker explaining how general George Patton was taken to the Hackwood house when mortally wounded at the battle. We saw his grave at the Stonewall cemetery in Winchester. He is the grandfather of the famous WWII general. He is buried with his brother who was killed at Gettysburg.

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The Taylor Hotel in Old Town Winchester. When my ancestor, George E Yingling was captured at Stephenson's Depot on June 15, 1863 at the 2nd battle of Winchester, he was held here until being marched to Richmond for stays at Libby prison and Belle Isle.

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Downtown Old Town Winchester is wonderful! Go if you get the chance. It was hopping Friday night!

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The 1840 Court House and Confederate statue in Old Town.

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The CWT brigade enjoys wonderful company, a historic setting in the new SVBF Court House museum and some wine and cheese.

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Some period graffiti left on the walls and framed.

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Our members getting to know the SVBF staff.

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The second floor of the Court House has a wonderful museum filled will fascinating artifacts; like John Browns pike.
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Friday October 13, 2023 Third Winchester Battlefield tour continued:

I haven't said yet how shocked and pleasantly surprised I am that the Shenandoah Valley Battlefields Foundation (SVBF) has been able to preserve and interpret so much of the Third Winchester Battlefield! My great grandfather, George E Yingling, fought at this battle with Emerson's first brigade of James Rickett's Third Division of Wright's 6th Corps in the Union army. The land on which he fought has been lost to preservation. It is residential property, hotels, gas stations, and strip malls. I was sadly under the impression that the entire battlefield was lost. We arrived at the battlefield with our SVBF guides, Jack Owen and Nick Picerno, and I saw large expanses of farmland and woodlots. It was wonderful what they have done!

We resumed our tour up on the large rolling hilltop of the Huntsberry Farm where Confederate horse artillery commander James Breathed had placed his battery. From there we walk down to Red Bud Run where we crossed the wooden bridge and hiked up the hill through the woods to the section of the battlefield known as the Middle Field where first Grover's Division and then Dwight's Division of general William Emory's 19th Corps emerged from the first woods to assault Confederate John B. Gordon's Division.

Stretched thin, Gordon's Division was initially driven back by Grover's Division. There are two fence lines in the Middle field and Grover pushed past the first line to the second when reinforcements, in the form of Confederate general Robert Rodes Division crashed into them.

Ultimately it took both 19th Corps Divisions and the Divisions of George Crook's Army of West Virginia to drive the Confederates off of the Middle field. With Sheridan's entire line reengaged and pushing from east to west and Union Cavalry driving down from the north, Jubal Early's army was finally doomed and was driven south and west through the town, not stopping until they reached Fisher's Hill miles to the South. Thanks to the SVBF so much of this hallowed ground is now saved and wonderfully interpreted forever!

After touring the battlefield the members of out CivilWarTalk muster (which I am calling "the CWT brigade) were invited by the SVBF staff to a very special wine and cheese tasting at their very new Museum in the historic 1840 Court House at the center of historic Old Town Winchester. What a wonderful day it was!

I will comment on the above 33 photos and, since tomorrow is October 19, 2023, the actual 159th anniversary of the battle of Cedar Creek, I will wait until tomorrow to post some photos of our Saturday tour of that battlefield....
 
Photos of our Friday the 13th tour of the Third Winchester battlefield cont: Again, top to bottom...

1. One of Col. James Breathed's horse artillery on top of the hill at the Huntsberry farm property; aimed southeast toward the first woods and Middle field across Red Bud Run.
2. the Red Bud Run valley, viewed from below Breathed's battery.
3. The site of the Huntsberry farm.
4. At this site the 19th Corps regiments of the 30th MA and the 29th ME of general Beal's Brigade crossed Red Bud Run and attempted an assault on Breathed's guns but were driven back.
5. We hiked up this lovely wooded trail to the Middle field after crossing Red Bud Run.
6. Looking east in the Middle Field toward the First Woods. The Union forces fought harrowing battles in the woods and emerged from them into this field advancing toward us.
7. The first of two fence lines the Union forces would encounter in the Middle field. Our guides explained how archeology played an important roll in helping the SVBF place the fences. Thousands of percussion caps and other debris of a firing line told the tale.
8. Grover's Division passed this fence and was attacking the second fence line when the Confederate counter-attack struck. Dwight's Division was in line of battle at this fence as Grover was being driven back in confusion. Dwight's men could not fire because they would hit Grover's men. The Confederates didn't care and inflicted heavy casualties on both Divisions. I can't even imagine how frustrating it must have been for Dwight's brigades! To be taking casualties and not be able to fight back.
9. Nicholas "Nick" Picerno is the Chairman Emeritus of the SVBF, on "Acquisition and Preservation of the Third Winchester Battlefield." he has an incredible wealth of knowledge about the battle and was full of amazing detail about what actually happened on the ground we were touring. Here he begins telling the CWT brigade about the actions on this far right side of Dwight's Division at the first fence line.
10. At this spot the Union 19th Corps brigade of Dwight's Division commanded by general George L. Beal fought, Nick described the terrific fighting of the 114th NY, the 30th MA, the 29th Me, and the 153rd and 116th NY. The fighting was horrific and deadly. Nick has studied this battle and has an extensive collection of artifacts, letters, and orders regarding the people who fought here. Here he shows us the shoulder bars of general Beal from his collection.
11. Division commander Dwight was appalled by the retreat of Grover's Division which caused so much trouble for his own Division. In Dwight's after battle report he sternly criticized Grover. His words were so strong they got him arrested! Still under arrest a month later at Cedar Creek, his Division was commanded by a subordinate. Finally, he had to change his report to attain his freedom. Dwight's infamous report disappeared from the record, no one knew what he said that could lead to his arrest. Low and Behold, where does this infamous report surface? In Nick's hand, right in front of us! Yes, Nick has the original report that got Dwight arrested!
12. Where did the horrible rebuke go? If you look closely on the lower portion of the right hand page you can see that Dwight simply rewrote the new "appropriate" report and pasted it right over the old one!!! It's the 19th century version of "cut and paste!!!" LOL
And no, we could not convince Nick to somehow steam it off or remove it to finally see what was said!!!!
13. A view from the Middle field to Breathed's battery.
14. The second fence line. Rodes Confederates attacked toward us. The slope behind the fence meant the Union troops could only see the tops of their battle flags.
15. The Alabama Monument to Cullen A. Battle's Alabama brigade of Rodes' Division. (I think we had some connection to Alabama in our ranks!!! A lot of wonderful people!)
16. The beautiful arch of Osage Orange trees leading to the Hackwood house at the western end of the battlefield. The original lanes have been marked and preserved by the SVBF.
17. A view of the Hackwood house.
18. The marker explaining how general George Patton was taken to the Hackwood house when mortally wounded at the battle. We saw his grave at the Stonewall cemetery in Winchester. He is the grandfather of the famous WWII general. He is buried with his brother who was killed at Gettysburg.
19. The Taylor Hotel in Old Town Winchester. When my ancestor, George E Yingling was captured at Stephenson's Depot on June 15, 1863 at the 2nd battle of Winchester, he was held here until being marched to Richmond for stays at Libby prison and Belle Isle.
20. Downtown Old Town Winchester is wonderful! Go if you get the chance. It was hopping Friday night!
21. The 1840 Court House and Confederate statue in Old Town.
22. The CWT brigade enjoys wonderful company, a historic setting in the new SVBF Court House museum and some wine and cheese.
23 & 24. Views of the Court House... including
25. Some period graffiti left on the walls and framed.
26. Our members getting to know the SVBF staff.
27 - 33. The second floor of the Court House has a wonderful museum filled will fascinating artifacts; like #28 John Browns pike.

Tomorrow I hope to post some Cedar Creek images on the actual 159th anniversary!
 
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Photos of our Friday the 13th tour of the Third Winchester battlefield cont: Again, top to bottom...

1. One of Col. James Breathed's horse artillery on top of the hill at the Huntsberry farm property; aimed southeast toward the first woods and Middle field across Red Bud Run.
2. the Red Bud Run valley, viewed from below Breathed's battery.
3. The site of the Huntsberry farm.
4. At this site the 19th Corps regiments of the 30th MA and the 29th ME of general Beal's Brigade crossed Red Bud Run and attempted an assault on Breathed's guns but were driven back.
5. We hiked up this lovely wooded trail to the Middle field after crossing Red Bud Run.
6. Looking east in the Middle Field toward the First Woods. The Union forces fought harrowing battles in the woods and emerged from them into this field advancing toward us.
7. The first of two fence lines the Union forces would encounter in the Middle field. Our guides explained how archeology played an important roll in helping the SVBF place the fences. Thousands of percussion caps and other debris of a firing line told the tale.
8. Grover's Division passed this fence and was attacking the second fence line when the Confederate counter-attack struck. Dwight's Division was in line of battle at this fence as Grover was being driven back in confusion. Dwight's men could not fire because they would hit Grover's men. The Confederates didn't care and inflicted heavy casualties on both Divisions. I can't even imagine how frustrating it must have been for Dwight's brigades! To be taking casualties and not be able to fight back.
9. Nicholas "Nick" Picerno is the Chairman Emeritus of the SVBF, on "Acquisition and Preservation of the Third Winchester Battlefield." he has an incredible wealth of knowledge about the battle and was full of amazing detail about what actually happened on the ground we were touring. Here he begins telling the CWT brigade about the actions on this far right side of Dwight's Division at the first fence line.
10. At this spot the Union 19th Corps brigade of Dwight's Division commanded by general George L. Beal fought, Nick described the terrific fighting of the 114th NY, the 30th MA, the 29th Me, and the 153rd and 116th NY. The fighting was horrific and deadly. Nick has studied this battle and has an extensive collection of artifacts, letters, and orders regarding the people who fought here. Here he shows us the shoulder bars of general Beal from his collection.
11. Division commander Dwight was appalled by the retreat of Grover's Division which caused so much trouble for his own Division. In Dwight's after battle report he sternly criticized Grover. His words were so strong they got him arrested! Still under arrest a month later at Cedar Creek, his Division was commanded by a subordinate. Finally, he had to change his report to attain his freedom. Dwight's infamous report disappeared from the record, no one knew what he said that could lead to his arrest. Low and Behold, where does this infamous report surface? In Nick's hand, right in front of us! Yes, Nick has the original report that got Dwight arrested!
12. Where did the horrible rebuke go? If you look closely on the lower portion of the right hand page you can see that Dwight simply rewrote the new "appropriate" report and pasted it right over the old one!!! It's the 19th century version of "cut and paste!!!" LOL
And no, we could not convince Nick to somehow steam it off or remove it to finally see what was said!!!!
13. A view from the Middle field to Breathed's battery.
14. The second fence line. Rodes Confederates attacked toward us. The slope behind the fence meant the Union troops could only see the tops of their battle flags.
15. The Alabama Monument to Cullen A. Battle's Alabama brigade of Rodes' Division. (I think we had some connection to Alabama in our ranks!!! A lot of wonderful people!)
16. The beautiful arch of Osage Orange trees leading to the Hackwood house at the western end of the battlefield. The original lanes have been marked and preserved by the SVBF.
17. A view of the Hackwood house.
18. The marker explaining how general George Patton was taken to the Hackwood house when mortally wounded at the battle. We saw his grave at the Stonewall cemetery in Winchester. He is the grandfather of the famous WWII general. He is buried with his brother who was killed at Gettysburg.
19. The Taylor Hotel in Old Town Winchester. When my ancestor, George E Yingling was captured at Stephenson's Depot on June 15, 1863 at the 2nd battle of Winchester, he was held here until being marched to Richmond for stays at Libby prison and Belle Isle.
20. Downtown Old Town Winchester is wonderful! Go if you get the chance. It was hopping Friday night!
21. The 1840 Court House and Confederate statue in Old Town.
22. The CWT brigade enjoys wonderful company, a historic setting in the new SVBF Court House museum and some wine and cheese.
23 & 24. Views of the Court House... including
25. Some period graffiti left on the walls and framed.
26. Our members getting to know the SVBF staff.
27 - 33. The second floor of the Court House has a wonderful museum filled will fascinating artifacts; like #28 John Browns pike.

Tomorrow I hope to post some Cedar Creek images on the actual 159th anniversary!
I am happy to edit your post to add your captions if you'd like them to appear with the images?
 
I am happy to edit your post to add your captions if you'd like them to appear with the images?
Wow, that would be wonderful; it would certainly make it much easier for our other members to understand what they are looking at. If you can I would appreciate it.

I am not computer savvy and simply upload pictures to my post and it only gives me the option to insert the full picture and there is no room to type or comment between pictures? I am sure I am doing something wrong?

I will keep at it since I am planning to post some photos from our Saturday touring of Cedar Creek today.
 
Wow, that would be wonderful; it would certainly make it much easier for our other members to understand what they are looking at. If you can I would appreciate it.
Done. Happy to help.
I am not computer savvy and simply upload pictures to my post and it only gives me the option to insert the full picture and there is no room to type or comment between pictures? I am sure I am doing something wrong?
No, it's sometimes difficult to get the cursor in the right place. If you can get it in between the photos or click the enter button to create a space in between, you can add text below or above the photos.
 
On Saturday October 14, the CWT members toured the Fisher's Hill battlefield in the morning. Unfortunately, I missed that tour. It sounded wonderful. Katie Malloy and I caught up with them at the National Park Service Cedar Creek Visitor's Center in Middletown, VA. There our Ranger gave us a wonderful overview of the battle using their lovely little electronic diorama. It is small Visitor's Center somewhat hidden in a little strip mall along Route 11, however, I was pleasantly surprised at how well it is set up, and it is staffed with excellent Rangers.

From there our CWT brigade caravan went south to the town of Strasburg, VA where we snaked along the back roads that follow the path of John B. Gordon's right wing of Jubal Early's army. The road led us to Bowman's Ford where general Joseph B. Kershaw's Division crossed Cedar Creek. After visiting Bowman's Ford we followed the hill they climbed to where the two Divisions of the Army of West Virginia were camped. We stopped at Thoburn's Redoubt where Joseph Thoburn's three Brigades were camped. Kershaw's Division climbed over the earthworks initiating one of the most amazing surprise attacks of the war.

From there we followed the winding roads that followed the paths of Gordons other Divisions and saw where they would have hit Rutherford B. Hayes Division and then the Divisions of the 19th Corps. Despite fierce fighting, the Army of West Virginia was routed in their sleep and ran northward through Middletown. The 19th Corps put up gallant resistance, however, they too were forced to fall back. As the surging Confederate lines passed Sheridan's headquarters at the Belle Grove Plantation, they began to encounter more resistance from the 1st and 3rd Divisions of the 6th Corps. That gave George W. Getty's 2nd Division of the 6th Corps time to set up defensive lines at the town's cemetery.

We stopped and had a wonderful lunch gathering at the Belle Grove Barn. After lunch some of us toured the preserved 19th Corps trenches and I was with those of us that toured the historic Belle Grove mansion. From there we went to the town cemetery where Getty's three Brigades held out for nearly two hours. This stand, combined with the fact that Early's army had marched all night and fought five hours, was disorganized, and some of it was finding food and supplies in the Union camps, caused Early to halt his advance to regroup.

The pause in the action did allow his army to regroup and slowly work it's way north and form a line of battle at the Miller family farm in fields on the northern edge of Middletown. It also allowed the Union forces to regroup as well. After tentative probing and skirmishing, the Union counterattack began around 4:00PM.

The Miller family home was our final stop of the day. Newly acquired by the SVBF it is not open to the public and not ready to be open to the public, however, we were lucky enough to gain access to this extremely historic building. The acquisition is so recent, the property needs to be cleaned up and it's restoration is certainly still in the planning stages. The property is critical to the interpretation of the battle. The Confederate Division of Stephen Dodson Ramseur formed it's final line of battle in the front yard and the Confederate line stretched west from there. This is, therefore, essentially the high water mark of the Confederate forces at Cedar Creek. It is also the location of General Ramseur's mortal wounding. Loaded onto a wagon he was captured during the retreat and laid in bed in the Belle Grove house. He was cared for by both Union and Confederate doctors and visited by many Union officers who had attended West Point with him.

After Ramseur's wounding and the arrival of Union cavalry on both flanks, the Confederate for dissolved and defeat became a rout.
 

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