"Mississippi" Question

limberbox

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Moller states that "U.S. contract Model 1841 rifle barrels were stamped 'US' over two or three inspectors' initials, over the letter "P" in three lines. The 'US' signifies federal ownership." All contractor M. 1841'a were also marked "US" on the lockplate and on the butt plate tang. (Moller, v. III, p. 120)

If one encounters a contractor-made M. 1841 that is so worn it does not have visible cartouches in the wood, is the presence or absence of "US" on rifle's barrel the determinant of whether it was accepted into federal service?
 

Craig L Barry

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I am not sure if this answers your question, but as I understand it the US 1841s made by several independent contractors and accepted into service by the US Government were marked US with VP proof marks and inspection marks. My understanding is that if the arm was not marked, you should not assume it was accepted into service by the US Government. A number of Whitney made US 1841s in particular did pass the government inspection with gauges and were rejected. Whitney claimed they lost money on the government contract for that reason. Some of the condemned parts from those contract arms (and others) were used to make the amalgamated Whitney "Enfield." I would say that if the correct markings were absent from an otherwise intact US 1841, it was probably not accepted into Federal service.
 
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Moller states that "U.S. contract Model 1841 rifle barrels were stamped 'US' over two or three inspectors' initials, over the letter "P" in three lines. The 'US' signifies federal ownership." All contractor M. 1841'a were also marked "US" on the lockplate and on the butt plate tang. (Moller, v. III, p. 120)

If one encounters a contractor-made M. 1841 that is so worn it does not have visible cartouches in the wood, is the presence or absence of "US" on rifle's barrel the determinant of whether it was accepted into federal service?
A picture of the barrel would help with a determination. Is the barrel also quite worn in the area where the proofs would go? If it isn't worn, and there are no proofs, then Craig L Barry's advice would be the correct conclusion.
 
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