Massachusetts Buckle

Rickhook

Cadet
Joined
May 26, 2018
Hi - I recently acquired this Massachusetts buckle. I believe it to be a Cavalry saber buckle but have not seen one online so far that is exactly the same. I'm looking for any more info on it as well as trying to find out a value on it. I would appreciate any input anyone has or suggestions on where I might go to learn more about it.

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Package4

1st Lieutenant
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Hi - I recently acquired this Massachusetts buckle. I believe it to be a Cavalry saber buckle but have not seen one online so far that is exactly the same. I'm looking for any more info on it as well as trying to find out a value on it. I would appreciate any input anyone has or suggestions on where I might go to learn more about it.

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Looks to be a 20th century novelty piece, the crossed muskets would certainly date this well post Civil War, as does the rear attachment. Maybe @bobinwmass can add more.
 

Package4

1st Lieutenant
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
Hi - I recently acquired this Massachusetts buckle. I believe it to be a Cavalry saber buckle but have not seen one online so far that is exactly the same. I'm looking for any more info on it as well as trying to find out a value on it. I would appreciate any input anyone has or suggestions on where I might go to learn more about it.

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Might the initials on the obverse resale to a University in lieu of an individual. The buckle might be for a cadet or university rifle team.
 

bobinwmass

Corporal
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Location
Western Massachusetts
I agree with the above statements, a post Civil War buckle for an infantry unit. Some of these in the late 1800's had specific company letters cast into the face also. A similar buckle was also made for cavalry units, those had crossed sabers instead of rifles in the background.
 

Rickhook

Cadet
Joined
May 26, 2018
I agree with the above statements, a post Civil War buckle for an infantry unit. Some of these in the late 1800's had specific company letters cast into the face also. A similar buckle was also made for cavalry units, those had crossed sabers instead of rifles in the background.
Thanks
 

bobinwmass

Corporal
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Location
Western Massachusetts
I'm home now with access to the reference books (was at work before). According to "American Military Belt Plates" by Michael J. O'Donnell and J. Duncan Campbell, the belt plate dates circa 1880-1900 and was used by the enlisted infantry on leather belts for garrison or dress duty. Mills woven cartridge belts with H-plates were worn in the field.
 

Package4

1st Lieutenant
Joined
Jul 28, 2015
I'm home now with access to the reference books (was at work before). According to "American Military Belt Plates" by Michael J. O'Donnell and J. Duncan Campbell, the belt plate dates circa 1880-1900 and was used by the enlisted infantry on leather belts for garrison or dress duty. Mills woven cartridge belts with H-plates were worn in the field.
What page, I looked and must have missed it…..
 
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