Lee Lee is overrated.

[Gene Green]

What did he do that was remarkable?

He had remarkable luck when going against established tactics. Were it not for this luck we would not be having this discussion.

 

[cash]

I agree with you. Jackson was a better Commander than Lee. Again, why was Lee great?

Jackson didn't think he was better than Lee. Jackson took direction from Lee.

 

[U.S. Grant]

Shh! Shh! We can't do that - we're talking about Lee!

What does Cavalry provide? They provide security and reconnaissance. Tactics change. Again, we are deviating from Lee's greatest. I understand that you do not view Lee as great. Why do you like him?

 

[U.S. Grant]

Jackson didn't think he was better than Lee. Jackson took direction from Lee.

I am not concerned with what Jackson thought. Objectively, Jackson was more of a a Strategist. If Lee was not great, why is he revered?

 

[diane]

What does Cavalry provide? They provide security and reconnaissance. Tactics change. Again, we are deviating from Lee's greatest. I understand that you do not view Lee as great. Why do you like him?

Same reason I like Grant!

 

[cash]

I am not concerned with what Jackson thought. Objectively, Jackson was more of a a Strategist. If Lee was not great, why is he revered?

Lee never screwed up the way Jackson did in the Seven Days. Jackson's strategy in the Valley came from Lee.

 

[U.S. Grant]

Same reason I like Grant!

Which is?

 

[U.S. Grant]

Lee never screwed up the way Jackson did in the Seven Days. Jackson's strategy in the Valley came from Lee.

Lee screwed up, your words, during the Overland campaign and the Battle of Gettysburg. Why is he relevant or reverend?

 

[cash]

Lee screwed up, your words, during the Overland campaign and the Battle of Gettysburg. Why is he relevant or reverend?

Lee didn't screw up in the Overland Campaign, nor did he screw up in the Battle of Gettysburg. His decisions were correct based on what he knew at the time.

 

[Jamieva]

Lee screwed up, your words, during the Overland campaign and the Battle of Gettysburg. Why is he relevant or reverend?

Every general had screw ups. By that definition there are no greats

 

[diane]

Which is?

They're fighters, good men who did what they believed to be right, conducted themselves well in their lives. Pretty good generals, too - they were a match and it showed every time they met. Grant didn't win because he had more men and resources, nor did Lee lose because he was a crummy general. Somebody's got to do both, in a war, and both generals were determined they weren't going to be the one yelling 'uncle'.

 

[Gene Green]

Is a blackjack player who splits face cards and draws an ace for each one a great player ?

 

[cash]

Why is he relevant or reverend?

He's relevant because he was the best commander the confederates had.

He's not a reverend, as he was never ordained.

 

[cash]

Is a blackjack player who splits face cards and draws an ace for each one a great player ?

Depends. Was he counting cards?

 

[Jamieva]

Lee screwed up, your words, during the Overland campaign and the Battle of Gettysburg. Why is he relevant or reverend?

If he's not relevant why did you start this discussion?

Revered. no reverand

 

[U.S. Grant]

Lee didn't screw up in the Overland Campaign, nor did he screw up in the Battle of Gettysburg. His decisions were correct based on what he knew at the time.

Pickett's charge was not a screw up? You have not stated why Lee should be revered.

 

[cash]

Revered. no reverand

Oh! Okay. He's revered by some because of the remnants of the lost cause mythology that held sway for so long.

 

[cash]

Pickett's charge was not a screw up? You have not stated why Lee should be revered.

Based on what Lee knew at the time, Pickett's Charge was a reasonable action to take. Have you ever walked the ground?

 

[U.S. Grant]

They're fighters, good men who did what they believed to be right, conducted themselves well in their lives. Pretty good generals, too - they were a match and it showed every time they met. Grant didn't win because he had more men and resources, nor did Lee lose because he was a crummy general. Somebody's got to do both, in a war, and both generals were determined they weren't going to be the one yelling 'uncle'.

They were not all good men. Lee's slaughtered Americans of African decent when they surrendered, and after they lost the war.

 

[diane]

They were not all good men. Lee's slaughtered Americans of African decent when they surrendered, and after they lost the war.

Now that's just plain strange!