Hi, I am new to CivilWarTalk. Genealogy is what brought me to this site. I have many ancestors who fought in the Civil War, but the two I am most interested in are my 2nd great-grandfathers. I have a picture of one of them in his uniform.
Andrew J Fry was born in 1825 in Preble County, Ohio. He was my 2nd great-grandfather. Andrew Fry, volunteered for duty, enrolling on September 6, 1863, in Fort Smith, Arkansas, for a period of three years. He mustered into service on October 7th, 1863, Union side, as a Private in Company H, 2nd Regiment of the Arkansas Cavalry Volunteers. It was later reported that Andrew had been sick and in the General Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, since December 14, 1864. A certificate from the Surgeon General's Office, Record and Pension Bureau, dated June 8, 1865, stated that Andrew J. Fry died on February 22, 1865, at the General Hospital, Springfield, Missouri, of chronic diarrhea. Andrew was buried in February 1865 in Springfield National Cemetery, Greene County, Missouri. His wife, Charlotte Will Fry died in Leavenworth, Kansas on February 25, 1865, three days after Andrew. The cause of death and place of burial is unknown.
They had five children, but at this point, only three children were living. Elizabeth Ann Fry, Mary Catharine Fry, and William W. Fry, my great-grandfather. William was a minor, fifteen years old, so he received the $ 8-a-month pension from Andrew's military service.
About 20 years ago, I was given 4 pictures by a 2nd cousin. She said these four pictures were my 2nd great-grandparents, the Frys and the Langueins. They were hanging in William W Fry and his wife Victoria Languein Fry's farmhouse in Lovell, Oklahoma. I was told they were my 2nd great-grandparents, Andrew J and Charlotte Will Fry, and Andrew J Languein and his wife, Marguerite DeShield Languein. I put these pictures on ancestry.com on my family tree with the names I was given, so they have been copied into many other family trees.
Recently a cousin said she thinks all four of the pictures are from the Languein side, but not the Frys. Well, we know Andrew J. Fry died in the Civil War, we have all of his records. But my other 2nd great-grandfather also had military service. Andreas "Andrew" J. Languein was born in 1825 in Montreal, Canada, and came to the US and joined the service in Maryland in 1852, as a 2nd Dragoon, Company G. He served in Ft Terrett, Sutton County, Texas in the Mexican-American war and later he volunteered for the Kansas State Militia, which was primarily used in emergencies, so periods of service were usually short. He enlisted in September of 1863 in Davis County, Kansas. He was ordered into active service on October 8, 1863, and relieved from duty on October 26, 1864. Number of days in active service 19.
These are the four pictures of Andrew and Charlotte Fry and Andrew and Margaret Languein. Knowing the military records of my two great-grandfathers makes me think the man in uniform must be Andrew J. Fry but now I am unsure.
My cousin thought the pictures of the two men might be the same person, Andrew J. Languein, at different ages. I think the pictures of the two men look totally different.
There are a couple of clues. The military records indicate that Andrew J Fry was 40 years old when he died. He was 6 feet tall, with a fair complexion, black eyes, and light hair. Also in the military records, there was an inventory list of his belongings at his death, which included a uniform jacket and a great coat.
Whereas, Andrew J. Languein was 74 when he died. He was 5 feet, 7 inches tall, with hazel eyes, black hair, and a ruddy complexion. It looks like the man in uniform has light eyes and the man in the suit has black eyes, but of course, I know those old pictures were tinted, so it is hard to tell.
Was there a difference in military uniforms between States? Andrew Fry, Union, enlisted in Ft. Smith, Arkansas, and Andrew Languein enlisted in Maryland in the Dragoons in the 1850s and then later in 1863 in the Kansas Volunteer Army.
Any thoughts, insights, guesses, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I wish I could find some other pictures of them so I could compare them.
Thank you for your assistance.
Andrew J Fry was born in 1825 in Preble County, Ohio. He was my 2nd great-grandfather. Andrew Fry, volunteered for duty, enrolling on September 6, 1863, in Fort Smith, Arkansas, for a period of three years. He mustered into service on October 7th, 1863, Union side, as a Private in Company H, 2nd Regiment of the Arkansas Cavalry Volunteers. It was later reported that Andrew had been sick and in the General Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, since December 14, 1864. A certificate from the Surgeon General's Office, Record and Pension Bureau, dated June 8, 1865, stated that Andrew J. Fry died on February 22, 1865, at the General Hospital, Springfield, Missouri, of chronic diarrhea. Andrew was buried in February 1865 in Springfield National Cemetery, Greene County, Missouri. His wife, Charlotte Will Fry died in Leavenworth, Kansas on February 25, 1865, three days after Andrew. The cause of death and place of burial is unknown.
They had five children, but at this point, only three children were living. Elizabeth Ann Fry, Mary Catharine Fry, and William W. Fry, my great-grandfather. William was a minor, fifteen years old, so he received the $ 8-a-month pension from Andrew's military service.
About 20 years ago, I was given 4 pictures by a 2nd cousin. She said these four pictures were my 2nd great-grandparents, the Frys and the Langueins. They were hanging in William W Fry and his wife Victoria Languein Fry's farmhouse in Lovell, Oklahoma. I was told they were my 2nd great-grandparents, Andrew J and Charlotte Will Fry, and Andrew J Languein and his wife, Marguerite DeShield Languein. I put these pictures on ancestry.com on my family tree with the names I was given, so they have been copied into many other family trees.
Recently a cousin said she thinks all four of the pictures are from the Languein side, but not the Frys. Well, we know Andrew J. Fry died in the Civil War, we have all of his records. But my other 2nd great-grandfather also had military service. Andreas "Andrew" J. Languein was born in 1825 in Montreal, Canada, and came to the US and joined the service in Maryland in 1852, as a 2nd Dragoon, Company G. He served in Ft Terrett, Sutton County, Texas in the Mexican-American war and later he volunteered for the Kansas State Militia, which was primarily used in emergencies, so periods of service were usually short. He enlisted in September of 1863 in Davis County, Kansas. He was ordered into active service on October 8, 1863, and relieved from duty on October 26, 1864. Number of days in active service 19.
These are the four pictures of Andrew and Charlotte Fry and Andrew and Margaret Languein. Knowing the military records of my two great-grandfathers makes me think the man in uniform must be Andrew J. Fry but now I am unsure.
My cousin thought the pictures of the two men might be the same person, Andrew J. Languein, at different ages. I think the pictures of the two men look totally different.
There are a couple of clues. The military records indicate that Andrew J Fry was 40 years old when he died. He was 6 feet tall, with a fair complexion, black eyes, and light hair. Also in the military records, there was an inventory list of his belongings at his death, which included a uniform jacket and a great coat.
Whereas, Andrew J. Languein was 74 when he died. He was 5 feet, 7 inches tall, with hazel eyes, black hair, and a ruddy complexion. It looks like the man in uniform has light eyes and the man in the suit has black eyes, but of course, I know those old pictures were tinted, so it is hard to tell.
Was there a difference in military uniforms between States? Andrew Fry, Union, enlisted in Ft. Smith, Arkansas, and Andrew Languein enlisted in Maryland in the Dragoons in the 1850s and then later in 1863 in the Kansas Volunteer Army.
Any thoughts, insights, guesses, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I wish I could find some other pictures of them so I could compare them.
Thank you for your assistance.
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