Kentucky

[JD Mayo]

Pretty lady

My Gaines family always had good genes in their family.

 

[atlantis]

In the union and confederate organization charts where was Kentucky. Example was it in the CS military dept. of the west.

 

[leftyhunter]

Kentucky illustrates the basic asymmetry of the two belligerents. For Illinois, Indiana and Ohio, Kentucky was a helpful addition to existing resources. But to Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee, Kentucky was an essential shield and it contained resources they were going to need if the war continued past 12 months.

Lincoln himself said " to loose Kentucky is to loose the game".
Leftyhunter

 

[mofederal]

Matilda Cunningham Hanger, 1st wife of Peter Hanger, who lived from 1825 to 1865. Hanger married her in 1850. She died at age 39. they had seven children. She looks a lot like Anna Hanger in her portrait. The last image is of Oakwood General Sterling Price's Headquarters in Little Rock , Ark.

 

[Rhea Cole]

Very interesting that in Dec of 62 60% were armed with smoothbores. I am impressed by how well AoT performed with what they had.

The Army of the Cumberland had40% smoothbores at Stones River.

 

[JD Mayo]

Matilda Cunningham Hanger, 1st wife of Peter Hanger, who lived from 1825 to 1865. Hanger married her in 1850. She died at age 39. they had seven children. She looks a lot like Anna Hanger in her portrait. The last image is of Oakwood General Sterling Price's Headquarters in Little Rock , Ark.

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I saw that thank you very much. She does look like Anna Hanger I guess he had a thing for dark haired women back then. I could never find the house of their's but that is really cool house. General Price used a lot of my family's property back then threw out the war. I think he had two children with Anna Gaines Hanger.

 

[mofederal]

It was very hard to find an image of Oakwood, and i only found the one image. Matilda Hanger does indeed look a lot like Anna. One of the children was also painted by the same artist.

 

[JD Mayo]

It was very hard to find an image of Oakwood, and i only found the one image. Matilda Hanger does indeed look a lot like Anna. One of the children was also painted by the same artist.

Anna Gaines Hanger her father's father had a portrait painted of him to his name is Abner Gaines Jr, I wonder who his artist name is also? His painting is hanging in his house today in Walton Kentucky (Abner Gaines House). My 5th great grandfather.

 

[atlantis]

Anna Gaines Hanger her father's father had a portrait painted of him to his name is Abner Gaines Jr, I wonder who his artist name is also? His painting is hanging in his house today in Walton Kentucky (Abner Gaines House). My 5th great grandfather.

Her married home is nice, have seen more than one of that style, pre air conditioning that upstairs porch would have felt like heaven.
Did she leave any written record of her impression of Price.

 

[atlantis]

Polk gets a lot of grief for going into Kentucky but is that justified. Was Kentucky really as neutral as people claim. The Ohio river makes a better natural defense line than the Tenn/Kentucky border. More territory means more buffer space for the center of gravity and Atlanta would appear more than Richmond the confederate center of gravity.
Kentucky is also a rich source for food/forage.

 

[JD Mayo]

This is my 4 x great aunts husband Judge Anthony Harpin Davies,

ANTHONY H. DAVIES was born at Derby, Conn., April 28, 1798. When quite young he came South, and first located at Nashville, Tenn., where he found employment as book-keeper with a firm by the name of Flowers & Co.; after having served faithfully in that capacity for several years, he moved to Columbia, Ark., where he engaged in merchandising for some time, gaining the confidence and esteem of all whom he came in contact with. Finding the business too close and confining, he sold out, and while on a visit to Tuscumbia, Ala., he fell in love with and married a Miss Aldridge, by whom he had four children. After having spent five or six years in Alabama, he returned to Arkansas and purchased a plantation on Lake Chicot, which he named Lake Hall plantation. While on a visit to Louisville, Ky., Mrs. Davies was taken sick and died July 19, 1839. Three years later, on February 12, 1841, he married a Miss Mildred P. Gaines, of Boone County Ky., who at the time was visiting her brother, R. M. Gaines, at Natchez, Miss. Immediately after the marriage, Mr. Davies returned to Lake Hall, where he lived some twenty odd years, a useful and honorable life, and on September 10, 1862, died of flux. He was for many years judge of the county court, over which office he wielded the sword of justice with an unerring hand and a clear conscience. He was a man of many fine traits of character and undoubted integrity, and, like Abou Ben Adhem, was one who loved his fellow men. He was also a loving husband and a good and kind father. At his death Chicot County lost one of her most worthy and foremost citizens. By his second marriage he had eight children: Pollard, Harpin, Fannie Walker, Fredrick Walter, Anthony Legrand and Abner Gaines (twins), Robert Geddes, Minnie Pollard and Joseph. He was an attorney and came to Arkansas in 1835. he became a planter, a banker, member of the state legislature, and judge. He lived in "Lake Hall" Plantation and died as Union
Troops entered southern Arkansas.

 

[Rhea Cole]

Polk gets a lot of grief for going into Kentucky but is that justified. Was Kentucky really as neutral as people claim. The Ohio river makes a better natural defense line than the Tenn/Kentucky border. More territory means more buffer space for the center of gravity and Atlanta would appear more than Richmond the confederate center of gravity.
Kentucky is also a rich source for food/forage.

Polk deserves every single scrap of blame for making a blunder of strategic proportions. In effect, he handed Kentucky to the Yankees on a plate. Lincoln was able to order the Union army into Kentucky to protect it from invading rebels. Every historian you will ever read rates Polk's Kentucky invasion as one of the major turning points of the war.

 

[atlantis]

Polk deserves every single scrap of blame for making a blunder of strategic proportions. In effect, he handed Kentucky to the Yankees on a plate. Lincoln was able to order the Union army into Kentucky to protect it from invading rebels. Every historian you will ever read rates Polk's Kentucky invasion as one of the major turning points of the war.

Kentucky was not going to secede so if the CS wanted it they were going to have to take it.

 

[JD Mayo]

Kentucky was not going to secede so if the CS wanted it they were going to have to take it.

Border states were never going to secede they didn't want to be part of it I believe neither did NC but had no choice because it was surrounded by Virginia and SC.

 

[atlantis]

Border states were never going to secede they didn't want to be part of it I believe neither did NC but had no choice because it was surrounded by Virginia and SC.

I am kind of surprised Virginia did given the economic ties to the north plus the fact the other slave states around it had not.

 

[JD Mayo]

I am kind of surprised Virginia did given the economic ties to the north plus the fact the other slave states around it had not.

Virginia was in a pickle.

 

[atlantis]

Virginia was in a pickle.

I think that pretty much describes the upper and mid south states. Outsiders say the south like it is or was a monolith but that is far from the truth.

 

[JD Mayo]

I think that pretty much describes the upper and mid south states. Outsiders say the south like it is or was a monolith but that is far from the truth.

I think most people in the South we're anti Locoln, and only wanted to be equals in their own country. I think they knew what they we're risking if they won they wouldn't be equals to Union men anymore but to their own society. Then free the slaves on their own accord.

 

[atlantis]

I think most people in the South we're anti Locoln, and only wanted to be equals in their own country. I think they knew what they we're risking if they won they wouldn't be equals to Union men anymore but to their own society. Then free the slaves on their own accord.

The gag laws on the issue of abolition and later the 20 negro law make me question if all southern white men were considered equal in their own society. I would have done the same as my ancestor and fought for the CSA still I would have looked at the politicians with a skeptical eye.

 

[Lubliner]

Kentucky was not going to secede so if the CS wanted it they were going to have to take it.

The real hinge on Kentucky was the ability if controlled by the confederates, just one northern push into Ohio would sever the Union in half.
Lubliner.